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Three Companies Impersonated Millions to Influence Internet Policy

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Re: Three Companies Impersonated Millions to Influence Internet Policy

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Not being very familiar with US government webdesign, it took a while for me to realize that this is in fact the official website of the NY attorney general, rather than the personal website of an individual. The AG's name is written in huge letters on top, as if it was her, rather than her office, that mattered most. The name appears three times before the first paragraph of the article, and again in large, bold let…

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Re: Three Companies Impersonated Millions to Influence Internet Policy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the rhetoric for net neutrality was pretty extreme. According to the rhetoric of the time, we would be living in a world of internet "fast lanes" right now if net neutrality didn't pass. Only services affiliated with the big greedy telcos were going to be given a pass while all the other services on the web were going to require additional fees to get adequate bandwidth to/from. That was a major fear mongerin…

What did these companies get out of pushing to repeal it then? If the regulation was banning a business model that no one was going to use anyway, I don't see the impetus to commit mass fraud. Does net neutrality prevent anything beyond fast lanes and censorship?

Just to speculate:

- perhaps it includes auditing and reporting measures to ensure they aren't doing this things.

- maybe its really hard to guarantee exactly equal performance for all traffic and they examine the traffic and do different things depending on the domain to balance loads

Re: Three Companies Impersonated Millions to Influence Internet Policy

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post #6

"An investigation by the Office of the Attorney General (OAG) found that the fake comments used the identities of millions of consumers, including thousands of New Yorkers, without their knowledge or consent." $615k seems like a slap on the wrist for what they did.

> $615k seems like a slap on the wrist for what they did.

No fine has ever been a threat to any company. The entire system is such a joke.

Re: Three Companies Impersonated Millions to Influence Internet Policy

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, those are the rules. That's how capitalism works.

This isn't a meaningful tautology. "The system is unjust because it is unjust and therefore must always be unjust." We can and should improve society.

> This isn't a meaningful tautology. "The system is unjust because it is unjust and therefore must always be unjust."

> We can and should improve society.

We should, but what makes you think that we can?

Re: Three Companies Impersonated Millions to Influence Internet Policy

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Companies be like "Whoops"

It's difficult to say how much this 'influenced' policy but it sure gives a good smoke screen.

With the amount of money we have spent de-anonymizing the internet for profit we should have been able to disclose this earlier.

Re: Three Companies Impersonated Millions to Influence Internet Policy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did these companies get out of pushing to repeal it then? If the regulation was banning a business model that no one was going to use anyway, I don't see the impetus to commit mass fraud. Does net neutrality prevent anything beyond fast lanes and censorship?

Just to speculate: - perhaps it includes auditing and reporting measures to ensure they aren't doing this things. - maybe its really hard to guarantee exactly equal performance for all traffic and they examine the traffic and do different things depending on the domain to balance loads

To overly simplify it I believe we witnessed a battle of big tech vs big ISP. Each had a financial stake. Big ISP didn't want to pay for investments in infrastructure it didn't think would bring a good ROI or the extra costs you mentioned above with having to comply with new government regulations. And Big tech didn't want to pay extra fees for being some of the biggest servers of data on the internet. The fact so many comments here don't acknowledge big tech also had business interests in net neutrality passing like big ISP had business interests in it failing scares me. They are both big business looking out for their own backsides. I'm saying this as someone who grew up in a house that STILL doesn't have access to highspeed landline internet in 2023 because the ISPs did t consider the density of houses in the area worth the investment. I'm not immune to Big ISP or a shill. But this legislation was not the good vs evil it's made out to be by so many. Big tech companies have little problem taking a stand for some opinions they don't seem acceptable. they don't give neutrality to their platforms either.
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