Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

Post by haldujai » Sat, May 13, 2023, 6:30 PM UTC

TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #600

shuckles wrote: post #499

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This is what I mean by strangely inconsistent demands for intellectual rigor. Not only does your summary of that article ignore that Central and South American countries with predominantly Latino populations dominate the top charts, but also it totally misses the actual point which is black Americans have higher crime rates than other countries with large numbers of black people which is a different claim than countr…

That's actually not true, we have American states that are 99% white and are a good test, they compare favorably to European states with the same demographics crime wise. (look at the north east) Why isn't West Virginia, a dirt poor state that's almost fully white, a crime ridden state?

Post by pauldenton » Sat, May 13, 2023, 6:41 PM UTC

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"You stole a deadly vehicle and put people's lives in danger with it. Multiple times. You will be tried as an adult and the minimum sentence is 5 years." Why is this not the obvious solution? (not as if you could single-handedly enact it, of course, but why isn't the city's leadership doing so?)

This used to be the "solution", except all it did was act as a gladiator academy that turned out more hardened criminals after 5 years. Do that every year and every year you are just working a machine to create crime. Turns out that just putting people in jail doesn't make society safer.

Post by shuckles » Sat, May 13, 2023, 6:49 PM UTC

noptd wrote: post #612

shuckles wrote: post #501

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At least try to bring some evidence when casually spouting random racist falsehoods, we’re an empirically driven discussion forum.

I'm not the OP but equating criticism of the *culture* of a *subset* of a given demographic with racism is an extremely uncharitable take.

Post by haldujai » Sat, May 13, 2023, 7:06 PM UTC

noptd wrote: post #612

shuckles wrote: post #501

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At least try to bring some evidence when casually spouting random racist falsehoods, we’re an empirically driven discussion forum.

I'm not the OP but equating criticism of the *culture* of a *subset* of a given demographic with racism is an extremely uncharitable take.

Post by pauldenton » Sat, May 13, 2023, 7:14 PM UTC

caditinpiscinam wrote: post #506

ravensfan69 wrote: post #139

I live in Baltimore, in a pretty "good" part of town where most of the young professionals and Hopkins hospital staff live. I know 4 different people who've had cars stolen in the past 24 months. In 3 of these cases the perpetrators were teenagers, and in 2 of these cases they brandished guns. Only one of these thefts were Hyundai/Kia-related, and the thief punched my buddy in the face during the theft. Many others I…

This viewpoint is so backwards to me. Rich people buy up the nicest houses. They buy themselves new Teslas. They buy $5k sofas and $10k refrigerators and $20k NFTs. They hire landscapers and cleaners and movers and roofers and pay them minimum wage, or less. They buy up all the other houses and rent them out for double the mortgage payments. They get a $50k bonus from their job at some payday-loan-app startup and the…