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Google Launches AI Supercomputer Powered by Nvidia H100 GPUs

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Re: Google Launches AI Supercomputer Powered by Nvidia H100 GPUs

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I get it, but the launches are always about what you can now do then slowly followed with "some partners can register interest". For example for palm/bard this was my experience: "Hey we have this amazing LLM!" "Great, given you are a company can I pay you money above your costs for this service?" "No but you can register for updates about when the wait-list will open " They announced cool features for Google docs as…

Sure, but look at Bard it was on wait-list for what 3 months? Now it's available in 180 countries... for free. Not everything gets launched because sometimes they find out in that testing period that they got it wrong.

After the big hype of it yes. And the models are not really available, they've got a little playground for some unspecified model.

Re: Google Launches AI Supercomputer Powered by Nvidia H100 GPUs

#82
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Should we buy Nvidia stock then? The greatest technological advancement in recent years critically depends on the hardware from a single company with no competition. yet Nvidia stock is still below its 2021 peak. How so?

It is unknown how much pricing power NVDA has. Can they 3x the price of everything And still sell out?

Re: Google Launches AI Supercomputer Powered by Nvidia H100 GPUs

#83
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Should we buy Nvidia stock then? The greatest technological advancement in recent years critically depends on the hardware from a single company with no competition. yet Nvidia stock is still below its 2021 peak. How so?

It doesn't necessarily depend on Nvidia hardware. Nothing stops you from training an AI on an adequately advanced ASIC or FPGA, in theory. Nvidia does accelerate it though, and they're also offering unparalleled performance-per-dollar to the audience that's in the market.

In a way, it feels like Nvidia is embarrassingly aware of this. They were the reluctant shovel salesman during the cryptocurrency gold rush, and they're rightfully wary of going all-in on AI. If I was an investor, I'd also be quantifying just how much of a "greatest technological advancement" modern machine learning really is.

Re: Google Launches AI Supercomputer Powered by Nvidia H100 GPUs

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Interestingly the "4th generation Intel Xeon Scalable processors" themselves have up to 2.45 TBps in memory bandwidth, with the 8-socket configuration, or 2 TBps with 2-socket Xeon Max and HBM. If they'd make an 8-socket Xeon Max it would have 8 TBps. Considering that the Xeon Max 9462 is $8000 vs. the H100 going for north of $40,000, that could be interesting.

The throughput these gpu's have make the price pretty competitive, but I think AMD is working on a APU in their instinct lineup. That could be pretty competitive since Nvidia is overcharging for memory and you could just use sticks instead

Nvidia is also working on a tightly integrated datacenter solution, FWIW: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/grace-cpu/

Re: Google Launches AI Supercomputer Powered by Nvidia H100 GPUs

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There's a few comments to this effect in the thread, and I don't entirely understand where they're coming from. There's nothing in the article suggesting they've changed their strategy with TPUs in any way. The word TPU isn't even mentioned here. There's no suggestion they're actually using this internally either. There's no benchmarks showing that it's more cost-effective or scales better. And isn't your second para…

The word TPU isn't even mentioned here. A sentence that reads "I am going to eat nothing but vegetables from now on" doesn't mention meat, but you can infer that I won't eat meat again from the sentence. A sentence that says Google are going all in on nVidea GPUs for AI doesn't need to mention TPUs to convey information about their future either.

Sure. That's why I mentioned multiple ways in which the article could have been relevant to TPUs, which you chose not to quote. But it didn't have any of those either. The sentence you're offering up as a demonstration is just something you made up that does not appear in the article.

If anything, this just reinforces the point I was making. There is nothing at all in the article supporting this narrative. So, where is this coming from? Why are you so intent on this idea that you're reduced to fabricating support for it?

Re: Google Launches AI Supercomputer Powered by Nvidia H100 GPUs

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post #77

Should we buy Nvidia stock then? The greatest technological advancement in recent years critically depends on the hardware from a single company with no competition. yet Nvidia stock is still below its 2021 peak. How so?

Was that a genuine peak or was it driven by the crypto bubble?

Re: Google Launches AI Supercomputer Powered by Nvidia H100 GPUs

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Interesting, so what is the compute power of the 1000-node A100 super cluster my team has been allocated at work? I was expecting Google to be much bigger than us.

They use their own TPUs like described in this paper [0]. They talk about 4096-chip supercomputers so this should give you an idea about what we are talking here. The paper is pretty fascinating stuff. They are using optical interconnects for example, which sounded like science fiction a few years ago.

[0] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.01433.pdf

Re: Google Launches AI Supercomputer Powered by Nvidia H100 GPUs

#90
post #35

I'm more interested in what normal folks are running at home. What are your builds?

Honestly it's a $79 Lonovo 3 Chromebook running a Gcloud A3 virtual workstation over 5G from the golf course ;)

I feel like if you go that route you should at least get something with a bigger nicer screen.
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