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Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#61
post #55

My word had a higher sum of percentages than the word listed as the "the best solution for this puzzle so far". I chose (SPOILER): radio ->(23%) sonar ->(30%) ocean, vs radio ->(29%) air ->(20%) ocean, so 53% vs 49%. Is the first connection more important than the subsequent ones?

I was disappointed that "waves" didn't (quite) work.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#62
post #35

I put waves for radio and ocean and got 19% and 55%. Is my expectation that the first percentage should be higher off?

"Investment" --> "Capital" Check. That worked. "Capital" --> "Letter" Did not work at all. And yet the two words are side-by-side with extreme frequency. So, basically, I don't know how this game gauges relatedness. I do know that I don't like it.

Semantic similarity means similarity of meaning, not how frequently they appear together.

Try out semantle to get a better sense of it if it's not immediately intuitive what I mean by that.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#63

Hello, I'm author of https://enlinko.com/ game, published it 24 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35630451 Domain for this game has been created 9 days ago. So, i think someone was heavily inspired by my idea. I understand that anyone can make game with same idea, but i'm bit sad that Enlinko haven't got such traction on HN as this game.

Hey! I'm trying to come up with a similar daily puzzle game, did anything help you come up with the idea? Also, do you generate these unrelated words daily and then vet them before releasing the daily puzzle, or is it all pretty much automated?

I don't really remember how i've come with that idea :) Basically i've become obsessed with word games lately and made couple of them. I'm most proud and happy of those two:

https://pixletters.com https://betweenle.com

As for Enlinko, it's hard game to balance. That's why i've made three difficulty levels. As for daily puzzles, i'm now using semi automated generator - it generates lot of pairs, try to solve them, check if solution counts match some rules and then i'm hand picking those potential pairs for daily puzzles.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#65
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using those vectors, which latest version is from 2019: https://github.com/commonsense/conceptnet-numberbatch I guess data used for making those vectors doesn't contain many occurrences of those two words in relation. Anyway, that's downside of word vectors idea. There always will be some words which we human will consider more or less related than word vectors. I've tried finding best one. It's different what Se…

What about using the those three models and returning the best score between them?

That's some really interesting idea. But what if it will make too many "false positives"? Maybe too many word pairs will be considered more related that one could expect.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#66
I'm trying this for the first time. Today's puzzle is asking me to link "radio" and "ocean". I put "waves", which is obviously the best answer :-) and it scored only a 19% match. It's now asking for /more/ linking words?!

Uhmmmm... no.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#67

I'm trying this for the first time. Today's puzzle is asking me to link "radio" and "ocean". I put "waves", which is obviously the best answer :-) and it scored only a 19% match. It's now asking for /more/ linking words?! Uhmmmm... no.

Same here, was puzzled too and had to add "wavelength" to complete today's words.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#69
post #35

I put waves for radio and ocean and got 19% and 55%. Is my expectation that the first percentage should be higher off?

I tried the same guess, and felt the same confusion. Whatever quality it is that the relatedness factor measures doesn't seem to align well with my sense of word association.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#70

Hello, I'm author of https://enlinko.com/ game, published it 24 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35630451 Domain for this game has been created 9 days ago. So, i think someone was heavily inspired by my idea. I understand that anyone can make game with same idea, but i'm bit sad that Enlinko haven't got such traction on HN as this game.

Thanks for linking your game! I love how fast it is. One thing I would like is the ability to work backwards from the end--on the challenge problem yesterday I got all the way from "artist" to "chess", only to find that neither "chess" nor "checkmate" nor any other chess-related word I could think of met the 30% threshold to get to "check". That was frustrating.

Maybe have a button to flip the direction of the word chain, so you could work from either end and meet in the middle somewhere.

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