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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Release

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Post by rightbyte »

rcpt wrote: post #661
JediWing wrote: post #360

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I think "as a kid" is the operative phrase here. Nothing will ever live up to that nostalgia. That's not to discount the criticisms or "feel" you get from the game, but it's worth noting that nothing lives up to our childhood favorites.

I played OOT for the first time at the start of COVID after no gaming for 20 years. It's the best game. As a kid I liked Marathon and Mario but never played Zelda for some reason. OOT is just a perfect game.

As a kid Zelda might be too hard. You need to be able to read. And as me, read a foreign language, English. I could not play it properly until I was like 12-13yo.

How would you compare it to MM? I think MM is better.

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Post by cubefox »

dmonitor wrote: post #728
cubefox wrote: post #442

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I'm pretty sure it has always been the case that a PC emulator could outperform a several years old gaming handheld. At least if enough interest was there for someone to write the emulator.

It just feels different since the switch is a “home console” technically instead of a pure “portable”

I'd say that something which is portable is a "portable" even if you can plug it into a TV. It is strongly power constrained. It is just bigger than old portable consoles. (I actually don't know why they were always so small before the Switch. Perhaps large screens were too expensive. Or everyone thought of them as having to fit inside a pocket.)

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Post by unlikelytomato »

simooooo wrote: post #732
unlikelytomato wrote: post #588

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I don't understand this. Someone expressed feelings about two entries in a franchise with wildly different gameplay designs. The age of the player does not change the content of the game.

As a kid you would play the dumbest stuff and think it was amazing. The age is 100% relevant to how you remember it.

I am not sure I agree Ocarina of Time falls into the category of "the dumbest stuff"

How could the OP be enjoying the feeling of Witcher 3 if they have childhood blinders on? Someone could draw roots of W3 & BotW back to Ocarina. It is reasonable to wish they made a modern Zelda that went down more of the W3 open world path instead of BotW style.

Re: The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Release

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Post by pfannkuchen »

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #660
eslaught wrote: post #552

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I loved Star Wars as a kid. Then the prequels made me jaded that there could ever be anything as good as the originals. The sequels and other content did nothing to dissuade me from this. Then Andor showed up and it's like, holy cow, this is actually good. Sometimes when the follow-on content is bad... it's because the follow-on content is bad.

Breath of the Wild is objectively a masterpiece though.

It gets the big things really really right but it is missing human character in a lot of ways compared to Ocarina and MM. Not sure if it was infeasible to do both or if they were on principle trying to let the nature elements do 100% of the work.

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Post by toyg »

knodi123 wrote: post #669
toyg wrote: post #31

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I didn't play BotW, would it be ok for me to jump right into this one?

If you didn't play BotW, then by all means, play one of the best-reviewed games of all time, which is probably a little bit cheaper by now. It's not like you'd be going back to 8-bit era and the technological whiplash would ruin the experience - they're basically the same in terms of quality, scope, and tech experience.

Sadly, at least on switch, it isn't cheaper. Exact same price as the brand new release.

Nintendo can be very, very cruel with their prices.

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Post by notSupplied »

pipes wrote: post #524
qbasic_forever wrote: post #14

I was listening to a gaming podcast last week and they were talking about how this release was pirated and available for the last week or so on torrents. That in itself wasn't surprising, but the interesting point they talked about is that the game is much more enjoyable when played on PC with an emulated copy because modern gaming PC hardware is much smoother and higher resolution than the stock Switch. It really ma…

I've a really good pc under my TV that I pretty much only use for emulation. So I'm not anti emulation by any means (it's allowed me to put all my real hardware in a cupboard and not have a big mess of wires in my living room)! But what these videos never show is that emulation is a pain in the ass. There's always a nagging feeling that game isn't quite right. I end up spending more time tweaking settings than playin…

Absolutely, the worst feeling of being stuck on a puzzle is not knowing whether you simply haven't solved the puzzle, or a bug has caused this door to not open and having to run online to check.

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Post by least »

staticman2 wrote: post #675
least wrote: post #563

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I'd agree that it is closer to Link to the Past in terms of storytelling, but I also think that Link's Awakening is the best Zelda story in the entire lot of games. I don't agree that the story was lame. Doing so would just be a condemnation of the series as a whole, which has always been light on narrative with very simple themes. Link's Awakening was the exception. > It also just wasn't that creative.. a very safe…

In terms of story, there's a lot of interesting stuff going on in Orarina of Time that's gently implied but left as subtext. I recommend the video essay called OCARINA OF TIME - A Masterclass In Subtext " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUcwsjyd8Q "

Thanks for that, It was interesting. There was no chance I'd ever pick up on any of that as a kid, let alone as an adult. I'm always pretty amazed by people that do these deep analysis.

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Post by jghn »

eslaught wrote: post #681
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Check out Clone Wars and Bad Batch. These brought me back to star wars fandom. Don’t be put off by animation. The stories are excellent and there is lots of character development.

I did watch The Clone Wars (note this is the 2008 TV series, not the 2003 one). The last season (especially the finale) was amazing, up there with Andor for best Star Wars content of all time. But watching the rest of it to get to that point was honestly a slog, and plenty of the shows are gag-worthy or at least blah. It's bad enough I can't recommend it to friends, but I've been trying to think about whether there's…

There are lists out there on which clone wars eps are skippable vs not if you just want to be up to date with all of the key storylines and hit the good eps.

Rebels is harder because they had a habit of sneaking key storyline bits into the meh episodes.

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Post by cubefox »

9dev wrote: post #730
matiasfernandez wrote: post #703

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I don't mind the sluggishness as much as the dialog in Witcher games. I tend to prefer games with little-to-no required dialog and Zelda's interactions tend to be more mechanical than conversational. I'm fine with lore, but as soon as I have to sit down and listen to video game writing while losing control of my character, I'm instantly bored.

Well, then that game just isn’t for you, which is fine, and why Zelda exists.

The Witcher is also considered a "role playing game", which were always heavily focussed on story. Zelda was never considered an RPG, more an "action adventure with puzzles", although nowadays these genres have converged a lot.

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Post by cubefox »

ryneandal wrote: post #611
Tainnor wrote: post #357

I cannot describe in words how impactful Ocarina of Time was to me as a kid, how intensely I got sucked into that world to the point that I even wrote some (bad) fanfic set in that universe back in the days. When Majora's Mask came out I was almost bursting with excitement until I was actually able to play it and was again totally blown away by a unique experience. When I played Breath of the Wild, I felt ... nothing…

I'm in my mid-30s and loved SNES and N64 Zelda games with a fervor bordering on zealotry. BOTW is certainly different regarding its core game design, but then again Majora's Mask and OOT are incredibly different in design as well. Look at the contrast between the first NES Zelda and Zelda II. Compare the SNES/N64 titles to 4 Swords on GameCube as well. My point is there is incredible gameplay variation in the Zelda f…

That's a good point. I don't know of any other gaming franchise which tries to reinvent itself basically every time. (Maybe Final Fantasy is similar, though I haven't played any of those games.)
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