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Re: Intel One Mono Typeface

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Post by tigrisc »

seanhunter wrote: post #101

Man I really have a vicerally negative reaction to this font. 1) The braces are completely horrible 2) What kind of person thinks that making the fullstop massive and putting it in the middle of the line like a dot product sign is good? 3) Where even is the backtick? 4) For all their talk of legibility, lowercase l and 1 are very similar looking to my eyes.

You should install the font and check it out. 2 - what you see in screenshot is not period, 3 - backtick exists, not in that screenshot, 4 - lowercase l is curved and totally different from 1

Re: Intel One Mono Typeface

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Post by ly3xqhl8g9 »

jdub wrote: post #57
TylerE wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there are already tons of great fonts available under open licenses.

But do they represent the Intel brand? Did Papyrus represent the Avatar brand? DID PAPYRUS?!

"He just highlighted Avatar, he clicked the drop down menu, and then he randomly selected Papyrus, like a thoughtless child just wandering by a garden yanking leaves along the way." [1]

As iconic a moment as the creation of the first sans serif font [2].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ

[2] "The earliest printing typefaces which omitted serifs were not intended to render contemporary texts, but to represent inscriptions in Ancient Greek and Etruscan. Thus, Thomas Dempster's De Etruria regali libri VII (1723), used special types intended for the representation of Etruscan epigraphy, and in c. 1745, the Caslon foundry made Etruscan types for pamphlets written by Etruscan scholar John Swinton." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans-serif#:~:text=The%20earli....

Re: Intel One Mono Typeface

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Post by fweimer »

grzm wrote: post #85
CGamesPlay wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The absolute worst is when a monospace font puts fi into a ligature with a width of 1 character, entirely defeating the purpose of being a monospaced font.

Can you provide an example of the font doing this? Substitution of individual characters with ligatures is in my experience a feature of the typesetting/display engine (which decides how to represent the "bytes" as glyphs), not the font itself. Indeed, this ligature substation is often something you can toggle in whatever application you're using if it's capable of doing the substitution at all.

Overpass Mono does it:

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Overpass+Mono?preview.text...

It's been fixed in Red Hat Mono.

Re: Intel One Mono Typeface

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Post by layer8 »

seanhunter wrote: post #101

Man I really have a vicerally negative reaction to this font. 1) The braces are completely horrible 2) What kind of person thinks that making the fullstop massive and putting it in the middle of the line like a dot product sign is good? 3) Where even is the backtick? 4) For all their talk of legibility, lowercase l and 1 are very similar looking to my eyes.

Also the plus is positioned higher than the hyphen-minus. Vertically center-aligned operators (+-) are a must for coding, in my opinion.

Re: Intel One Mono Typeface

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Post by iainmerrick »

seanhunter wrote: post #104
fwlr wrote: post #11

Very glad to see more “low x height” monospace fonts (x height is the height of lowercase letters relative to capital letters; I haven’t checked to be sure but my eyes tell me this is on the lower side). Source Code Pro has been my go-to for a very long time, and it has always bothered me that Apple opted for higher x-heights in their San Francisco re-design of Helvetica (which already has a high x height to begin wi…

Personally I'm skeptical of their consultation. My vision is not terrible but just on my initial scan the lowercase vwxyz look too similar to their uppercase variants and I have difficulty with the lowercase l and 1. Without my glasses I wouldn't be able to tell those apart at all.

the lowercase vwxyz look too similar to their uppercase variants

Is that likely to cause problems, do you think? You don’t generally need to read one of those characters on their own, they’ll be in context next to other characters. As long as you easily distinguish, say:

v0 V0

"v" "V"

If those are clear then I think it’ll be fine. And the relatively low x-height should help.

Re: Intel One Mono Typeface

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Post by cmcaleer »

reassembled wrote: post #4

IBM released a typeface a couple of years ago with much marketing fan fare: https://www.ibm.com/plex/ https://github.com/IBM/plex On another note, are there any notable examples of AI-generated mono-spaced programmer fonts?

That IBM website promoting it is the most ridiculously overengineered yet totally unusable website I've used in quite some time on desktop. It's really quite something. Also disappointing that the Github README doesn't include alphanumeric sample text.

Eventually I just gave up and found a usable website to actually view and sample the font: https://fonts.google.com/specimen/IBM+Plex+Mono

Luckily, the font is much better than the website!

Re: Intel One Mono Typeface

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Post by lionkor »

agalunar wrote: post #53
kqr wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really need font support for that, though? I've found editor support for it much cleaner -- it knows when it's best to expand then and when they should be ligatured.

Yes! Someone has to make the glyphs and someone has to write the rules that say "unconditionally replace this sequence of glyphs with this glyph" or "in this context, replace this glyph with that one" and so on. The only thing the editor has to do is decide to use them. They're usually grouped into features: standard ligatures (liga), discretionary ligatures (dlig), historical ligatures (hlig), contextual ligatures (…

kitty terminal has this feature! so, my vim has it by proxy

Re: Intel One Mono Typeface

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Post by deafpolygon »

Dalewyn wrote: post #63
bruce511 wrote: post #47

One thing I really appreciate about fonts is the low-stakes nature of trying them out. Installing is easy, and doesn't take much space, you set your editor and try it out. There's no lock-in, switching back takes zero effort. So I'm always keen to give them a go, some stick, some don't. For what it's worth I'm in the no-ligature group. I want to see => not some ligature. But again that's subjective and there's room f…

To this day I haven't seen a monospaced font superior to Courier New. And before anyone asks: No, this isn't a meme. Yes, I'm 300% serious.

The only issue I have is with the 'weight' of Courier New. It's too thin for me to be able to read. If it were just a hair thicker and had proper ligatures, I might use it.
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