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Language models still struggle with the concept of negation

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Re: Language models still struggle with the concept of negation

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Thats partly because negation is hardly a well defined statistical concept. Ask someone to not imagine where their favorite band might play in your town if they had their choice and I doubt people would say “ok I won’t.” More likely you’d have a conversation about bands and venues.

Re: Language models still struggle with the concept of negation

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What animals don’t have paws or lay eggs, but have wings? Work it out, step by step. ChatGPT (GPT-4): Sure, let's go through this step by step: First, you asked for animals that don't have paws. This would exclude mammals such as dogs, cats, bears, and so on, as these species have paws. Second, you specified animals that don't lay eggs. This eliminates a wide range of animals including all birds, most reptiles, and s…

While the answer landed on bats, ChatGPT kind of trips itself up in its explanations: 1. "Most winged creatures either have paws (like bats) or lay eggs (like birds and insects)" - but bats don't have paws. 2. "However, if we consider the term "wings" more broadly" - why do we need to consider the term "wings" more broadly? Nobody is arguing there is some definition of "wing" that would exclude bats. Bat wings evolve…

there are some google results suggesting bats have front paws, some using "paws" colloquially and some suggesting their pads can qualify as paws. these results are given authority because they show up in the ostensibly fact-based q&a section, which, in conflict with actual taxonomical literature, may be enough to indicate to gpt that it's necessary to define terms

Re: Language models still struggle with the concept of negation

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This is one of my favorite test cases: Prompt: Here is a riddle. It is a common riddle but with some changes that make it more difficult. You are an alien that will live for at least 10000 years. You have no sense of temperature. you can not feel hot or cold. you have eyes and can see. you are in a house. downstairs are 3 light switches that control 3 light bulbs that are upstairs. Each light bulb will last for exact…

Are you looking for: turn one light on, walk upstairs and note the light that is on. Walk downstairs, turn another light on, walk upstairs and note the new light that is on. Now you know which switches control which lights and it only took you 5 minutes instead of 6 years

Re: Language models still struggle with the concept of negation

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What animals don’t have paws or lay eggs, but have wings? Work it out, step by step. ChatGPT (GPT-4): Sure, let's go through this step by step: First, you asked for animals that don't have paws. This would exclude mammals such as dogs, cats, bears, and so on, as these species have paws. Second, you specified animals that don't lay eggs. This eliminates a wide range of animals including all birds, most reptiles, and s…

Wow, some species of bats don't lay eggs. TIL.

Re: Language models still struggle with the concept of negation

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This is one of my favorite test cases: Prompt: Here is a riddle. It is a common riddle but with some changes that make it more difficult. You are an alien that will live for at least 10000 years. You have no sense of temperature. you can not feel hot or cold. you have eyes and can see. you are in a house. downstairs are 3 light switches that control 3 light bulbs that are upstairs. Each light bulb will last for exact…

Maybe I'm missing something, but this seems like a really poorly worded riddle. Or just a bad riddle.

Given what you stated, the solution would be walk upstairs look at the 3 bulbs, walk downstairs switch one of the switches. Walk upstairs see which bulb changed on/off. Repeat for the other two switches.

This takes roughly 5 mins rather than your solution which takes 3 years.

Re: Language models still struggle with the concept of negation

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This is one of my favorite test cases: Prompt: Here is a riddle. It is a common riddle but with some changes that make it more difficult. You are an alien that will live for at least 10000 years. You have no sense of temperature. you can not feel hot or cold. you have eyes and can see. you are in a house. downstairs are 3 light switches that control 3 light bulbs that are upstairs. Each light bulb will last for exact…

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Re: Language models still struggle with the concept of negation

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What animals don’t have paws or lay eggs, but have wings? Work it out, step by step. ChatGPT (GPT-4): Sure, let's go through this step by step: First, you asked for animals that don't have paws. This would exclude mammals such as dogs, cats, bears, and so on, as these species have paws. Second, you specified animals that don't lay eggs. This eliminates a wide range of animals including all birds, most reptiles, and s…

While the answer landed on bats, ChatGPT kind of trips itself up in its explanations: 1. "Most winged creatures either have paws (like bats) or lay eggs (like birds and insects)" - but bats don't have paws. 2. "However, if we consider the term "wings" more broadly" - why do we need to consider the term "wings" more broadly? Nobody is arguing there is some definition of "wing" that would exclude bats. Bat wings evolve…

> but bats don't have paws.

Bat paw: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Bat_in_a...

ChatGPT was totally in tune with this concept. The appendage on the elbow of the wing can be a paw or not a paw but it certainly evolved from paws. The reasoning was spot on and amazingly nuanced.

Re: Language models still struggle with the concept of negation

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What animals don’t have paws or lay eggs, but have wings? Work it out, step by step. ChatGPT (GPT-4): Sure, let's go through this step by step: First, you asked for animals that don't have paws. This would exclude mammals such as dogs, cats, bears, and so on, as these species have paws. Second, you specified animals that don't lay eggs. This eliminates a wide range of animals including all birds, most reptiles, and s…

Wow, some species of bats don't lay eggs. TIL.

Actually, no species of bats lay eggs - they are mammals, and not the egg-laying kind (platypus or echidna).
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