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Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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Maybe image search and if the image is not novel, ignore it?

Good point (it seems to me), and if it's AI generated, (try to) ignore it too I guess

Why? If it is an AI generated image, it was generated from a text prompt, by the author of the article. Author had reviewed the image. The image is novel.

As long as this is novel content, it should be parsed, I think.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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I've come around to there being legitimate usecases for this type of generative AI, but I don't think producing anything that's supposed to be "True" or "Correct" is one. I think the only useful usecases is for when you want to generate fiction.

I’m to the point where I’d probably put more trust in an AI generated news summary than many of the sites that purport to give me accurate and truth worthy news.

Screwing it up isn't a crime. Papers can retract and re-visit a line of thinking. While nobody loves doing that, I think it'd help.

In addition I think it'd help if papers hammered the party line of Dems and Republicans far harder. My running joke / dare is: send sportscasters to DC for a year. At some point they'll call BS on everything and everyone, and start questioning with both barrels. BS is less tolerated in sports.

Take taxes. Trickle down is BS. But it's also true the top 5% or so pay 40%-60% of taxes while the US Congress continues to spend in debt. How we'd get here? Who's primarily to blame (Congress). And what is Congress gonna do to fix it?

Show votes by Congress members year by year against deficit, debt, and ratio paid by corps, rich, middle, and poorer Americans. I wanna see both aisles running for cover.

Biden's budget envoy was in Congress about 6-8 weeks ago. She mentioned biden's plan was raising taxes on corporations and individuals with $400k or more in earnings. But when the republicans pointed out the fact above (5% paying more than half) she had nothing.

What's the republican code here to de-construct? Well lack of fairness, and an implied destruction of jobs and income for workers if taxes are higher. Ok, how do you defeat that? Dems are empty. And tax payers will ultimately have to bear up under both parties stupidity if this continues.

I didn't grouse too much about how the government (mis)spends money so long as debt to GDP isn't stupid and there's some attempts to get real. But in the last 10 years, I've changed. Who wants to send cash to DC? DC has got serious trust problems.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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If anyone is looking for non-sensationalist news edited by humans, I'd like to offer a shoutout to the newsletter put out by https://join1440.com/ . I've been reading it now for a couple of months and, after comparing their choice of stories to cover and the ones covered in the national news (US and Germany), I'm feeling ready to leave the mainstream and let 1440 curate for me. So far they have not missed offering me…

I agree. I downloaded the Boring app yesterday. Launched it for the first time today and it appears to be tackling the wrong problem. The problem isn’t the headlines, it’s deciding what to cover in the first place.

PBS News Hour also does a great job of this. Just a few global and national stories a day, but a stark contrast from the emotional triggers from other news outlets.

Unfortunately have to delete the app for now. Will check back later to see if they’ve figured it out.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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What is the problem with the summarization of that article, exactly? https://www.boringreport.org/app/all/645c525a001a7a3765dbc4c... Or are you complaining that it's there at all?

Fact checks are sensationalist. Remember they were used primarily to go after Trump, and have been rarely used since. They also tend to be biased. I think it would be better to add a “how much it matters” weight to news, so this wouldn’t even show up for me (read I don’t care about fact checks), similar to newsminimist.com They could also use more right leaning site sources in general. It looks like they mostly have…

I remember that fact checks were a thing long before Trump was a prominent political figure. I also don't find it particularly surprising that Trump of all people is the subject of so many fact checks, given that the man is a brazen pathological liar.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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I’m to the point where I’d probably put more trust in an AI generated news summary than many of the sites that purport to give me accurate and truth worthy news.

Screwing it up isn't a crime. Papers can retract and re-visit a line of thinking. While nobody loves doing that, I think it'd help. In addition I think it'd help if papers hammered the party line of Dems and Republicans far harder. My running joke / dare is: send sportscasters to DC for a year. At some point they'll call BS on everything and everyone, and start questioning with both barrels. BS is less tolerated in s…

I agree, having AI sportscasters would be kinda cool.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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No, you’re applying a specific meaning to an inherently nebulous term, debullshitification. And honestly, I immediately knew what that meant when I read it. My preferred news source, which isn’t horrendously partisan, still has…exactly what I’d call bullshit. If that’s removed, I’ll get more bang for my buck in reading it, and that both provides immense value, and something that I’d call “debullshitification”, whilst…

Since you mentioned nebulous, this is the Oxford definition: > verb: bullshit; 3rd person present: bullshits; past tense: bullshitted; past participle: bullshitted; gerund or present participle: bullshitting > talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive. It’s reasonable to interpret debullshitification as removing bias (i.e. what is misleading or deceptive in the news article) in this context…

It's reasonable to interpret debullshitification as "removing bullshit." Specifically, "the reverse process of bullshitification."

Speaking nonsense, misleading, and deceiving aren't the same as "adding bias." They're just techniques that can be used to do so.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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Fact checks are sensationalist. Remember they were used primarily to go after Trump, and have been rarely used since. They also tend to be biased. I think it would be better to add a “how much it matters” weight to news, so this wouldn’t even show up for me (read I don’t care about fact checks), similar to newsminimist.com They could also use more right leaning site sources in general. It looks like they mostly have…

I remember that fact checks were a thing long before Trump was a prominent political figure. I also don't find it particularly surprising that Trump of all people is the subject of so many fact checks, given that the man is a brazen pathological liar.

Fact checks were rarely, if ever used prior to Trump, and are rarely if ever used after Trump. And interestingly Biden’s lies, which are clear if you’re not on the left (read an independent or the right) never get covered. For instance, a real easy one is AR-15’s being unusual or not in common use. It’s the most popular gun in the US, yet you’ll only see this fact on right leaning sites. This means, unequivocally, fact checks are nothing more than political weapons and serve nothing more than brainwashing people. Let’s not even get started on how many mistakes Biden has made while speaking, and if Trump were have to done the same.

There is very clear bias, and an attempt to stifle out competition by flooding the narriatve. Some of us are interested in a neutral perspective and really want this tit-for-tat crap to stop, before the rest of you destroy the country.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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Hm, maybe from some news outlets. I think the main issue for big news outlets isn't outright falsehoods, it's the coverage bias. You really can't get a full sense of what's going on if you don't make an effort to get news from divergent sources because each outlet covers the news that fits its preferred narrative.

Amen to that If we got a full-scale media blitz with pictures every time someone died in a car crash, people would take unnecessary car-related deaths much more seriously. 100 people a day are dying in the USA right now There's so much fucked up stuff like that going on in the world, and people have no idea about it since it never hits the news

I’m not sure basic transportation is unnecessary. Avoiding cars because they can crash is not realistic.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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Amen to that If we got a full-scale media blitz with pictures every time someone died in a car crash, people would take unnecessary car-related deaths much more seriously. 100 people a day are dying in the USA right now There's so much fucked up stuff like that going on in the world, and people have no idea about it since it never hits the news

I’m not sure basic transportation is unnecessary. Avoiding cars because they can crash is not realistic.

Driving with a dangerous combination of speed and distractedness/aggression/lack of skill is unnecessary. People all think they're driving safely even when they're not, because their dumb monkey brains get lulled into a false sense of security by years of coincidentally not crashing.

IMO the status quo is not remotely acceptable, and it's completely insane that we get so disproportionately pissed off whenever an immigrant or a police officer kills someone and completely ignore all the times car drivers kill people.

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