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Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Post by lozenge »

Convolutional wrote: post #185

I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US. The US incarcerates more people than China, despite China having more than four times as many people, but the view obviously is the incarceration ra…

You could have chosen from about 220 countries with a lower incarceration rate than the US, but because you said China, people are ignoring the substance of your comment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarce...

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Post by stickfigure »

dfxm12 wrote: post #193
Convolutional wrote: post #185

I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US. The US incarcerates more people than China, despite China having more than four times as many people, but the view obviously is the incarceration ra…

It would take Ra's al Ghul to resolve the problems of this city FWIW, the parent poster doesn't want increased incarceration, they want these people executed (probably without due process).

Dunno about the parent poster, but I would settle for caning.

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Post by BurningFrog »

Convolutional wrote: post #185

I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US. The US incarcerates more people than China, despite China having more than four times as many people, but the view obviously is the incarceration ra…

Locking up violent people and thieves is very popular among those outside the US!

You're right about the comparatively huge US prison population, but the difference is NOT because other countries let violent people and thieves roam free!

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Post by loeg »

Convolutional wrote: post #185

I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US. The US incarcerates more people than China, despite China having more than four times as many people, but the view obviously is the incarceration ra…

> I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US.

What? No. This is not remotely a universal American viewpoint -- especially the government being "on the side of the criminals etc." What would that even mean?

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Post by ravensfan69 »

dfxm12 wrote: post #193
Convolutional wrote: post #185

I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US. The US incarcerates more people than China, despite China having more than four times as many people, but the view obviously is the incarceration ra…

It would take Ra's al Ghul to resolve the problems of this city FWIW, the parent poster doesn't want increased incarceration, they want these people executed (probably without due process).

This was obvious hyperbole meant to express a deep frustration at having suffered at the hands of criminals in a city I care deeply about. People I love have been terrorized

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Post by plagiarist »

ravensfan69 wrote: post #199
Convolutional wrote: post #185

I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US. The US incarcerates more people than China, despite China having more than four times as many people, but the view obviously is the incarceration ra…

It feels bizarre to make appeals to a foreign society with a history, culture, government, and demographics which are utterly alien to the situation in the west. We don't live in China. Are you so sure that our situation SHOULD be that of China that you'd be willing to risk you or a loved one being victimized by a violent thug? It always confused me that people would side with criminals over the innocent.

"...even more than China. We should instead try approaches that, in Europe, have empirically lead to less violent crime."

"Why do you love criminals and want innocent families to be terrorized and executed by criminals?"

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Post by vkou »

local_crmdgeon wrote: post #143
ravensfan69 wrote: post #139

I live in Baltimore, in a pretty "good" part of town where most of the young professionals and Hopkins hospital staff live. I know 4 different people who've had cars stolen in the past 24 months. In 3 of these cases the perpetrators were teenagers, and in 2 of these cases they brandished guns. Only one of these thefts were Hyundai/Kia-related, and the thief punched my buddy in the face during the theft. Many others I…

Yeah, at some point in Chicago and Baltimore people figured out that career criminals vote, and will vote in their own interests. Very few people vote in local elections anyway, so they've managed to elect a ton of prosecutors who promise not to prosecute. Feels like the 70s in Urban America repeating itself. I feel bad for the older Black population in Baltimore. They busted ass for the last 50 years and they got to…

Please provide a citation for the insane claim that career criminals are a major voting block sufficient to consistently swing elections.

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Post by pySSK »

lordloki wrote: post #189
Convolutional wrote: post #185

I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US. The US incarcerates more people than China, despite China having more than four times as many people, but the view obviously is the incarceration ra…

China has literal concentration camps and prisoner organ harvesting. I don't think your comparison means much.

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Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Post by ravensfan69 »

loeg wrote: post #205
Convolutional wrote: post #185

I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US. The US incarcerates more people than China, despite China having more than four times as many people, but the view obviously is the incarceration ra…

> I should point out to those not from the US that this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc. It is up voted to the top as well, with agreement in the replies, this is how Americans view the US. What? No. This is not remotely a universal American viewpoint -- especially the government being "on the side of the criminals etc." What would th…

> What would that even mean?

It would look, and maybe this is sheer coincidence, very much like our present situation

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