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Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by tgv »

unethical_ban wrote: post #35
jdasdf wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail? There is no man on earth who has ever been able to do that. Do you have any other impossible suggestions?

My dad always said "Don't do anything you wouldn't want people to read about in tomorrow's newspaper". Many people also say "What would Jesus do?" No one can live like Christians believe Jesus did, but it's a guide. No one can be perfectly honest and moral 100% in their lives. It's a principle. I think the point of the OP comment is "the first lesson Tucker should get out of the ordeal is not being a racist fascist,…

IIRC, that's the kind of behavior that got people crucified.

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Post by lr1970 »

parker_mountain wrote: post #12
JohnMakin wrote: post #2

> Think twice before sending a message, even over Signal. You will likely not be able to predict when you will be sued, investigated, or otherwise thrown into the lime-light. Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

>Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail? This is ridiculous. There are so many things you can do that are ethical and illegal. Or ethical and legal and would still piss a lot of people off. Or, how about just wanting to rant off the record with friends? This idea the default should be "act lik…

> This idea the default should be "act like you're being watched" is harmful, both to the individual and to society.

As George Orwell said in his 1984 "Big Brother is watching you".

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by mrguyorama »

unethical_ban wrote: post #39
JohnMakin wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The excerpt you quoted makes it worse. In it, he acknowledges that he has absolutely no empathy for the person being beaten. Yea, great clarification! thanks! And no, I have not fantasized about a mob beating a person to death.

No, it doesn't make it worse. I loathe Tucker and am joyous to see him fall. He is a disgraceful human. BUT, for him to say "I had this thought, and I don't like it. Even though I don't like a person, I realize I shouldn't wish him to be harmed because that kind of thinking is toxic" shows self reflection and a desire to not be the bitter death-wishing brand of human.

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Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by web3-is-a-scam »

mrguyorama wrote: post #50
web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it actually does. You've never had intrusive thoughts or been caught up in mob/tribalisitc mentality?

>if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is? His "self reflection" is an attempt to feel self righteous and better than the stranger getting beaten for political reasons that he does not know.

People that reject the use of political violence are better than those that don't and I'm not going to pretend they aren't.

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Post by User23 »

JohnMakin wrote: post #2

> Think twice before sending a message, even over Signal. You will likely not be able to predict when you will be sued, investigated, or otherwise thrown into the lime-light. Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

> Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

Who's to say whether or not what is today a perfectly innocent message might be socially ostracizing or even criminal hate speech in 5 years?

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Post by kgwxd »

web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #20
JohnMakin wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh yes, that makes it much better.

Yes, it actually does. You've never had intrusive thoughts or been caught up in mob/tribalisitc mentality?

I have, but I don't then proceed to fill multiple sentences with how much I still baselessly hate said person while also trying to make myself look like a saint for thinking something that should have been obvious to anyone beyond toddler years and well before having witnessed it first-hand. I also don't then proceed to host a TV show pushing to get that exact response out of the audience.

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by User23 »

johnlocke8 wrote: post #7
JohnMakin wrote: post #2

> Think twice before sending a message, even over Signal. You will likely not be able to predict when you will be sued, investigated, or otherwise thrown into the lime-light. Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

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No my friend, he aspires to be the one wearing the boots.

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by mrguyorama »

throw_pm23 wrote: post #52
reducesuffering wrote: post #6

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Obviously not exactly this word-for-word, but I'm pretty sure most people have told equally objectionable things that they regretted afterwards or didn't fully think through at the time.

Yeah

When I was 14!

Not when I'm a well educated, rather privileged adult who spends his day job telling people that trans people are targeting them and that they are at ideological ("culture") war, and actively talking about how the guy I'm publicly pushing is someone I personally think is despicable.

You know what I do when I say something that hurts someone now that I'm an adult? I apologize.

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