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Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by jjoonathan »

JohnMakin wrote: post #2

> Think twice before sending a message, even over Signal. You will likely not be able to predict when you will be sued, investigated, or otherwise thrown into the lime-light. Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

The bar for "things that could get you fired" is not set by Tucker Carlson's behavior. Remember donglegate, that time an overheard "dongle" joke got someone fired? The limelight is extraordinarily harsh. Having nothing to hide isn't just a function of your own record, it's an assumption that pitchfork-wielding crowds will act reasonably. That's just not how it works. Better to play it safe.

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Post by parker_mountain »

JohnMakin wrote: post #2

> Think twice before sending a message, even over Signal. You will likely not be able to predict when you will be sued, investigated, or otherwise thrown into the lime-light. Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

>Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

This is ridiculous. There are so many things you can do that are ethical and illegal. Or ethical and legal and would still piss a lot of people off. Or, how about just wanting to rant off the record with friends?

This idea the default should be "act like you're being watched" is harmful, both to the individual and to society.

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by zorrotorro »

MarcScott wrote: post #5
JohnMakin wrote: post #2

> Think twice before sending a message, even over Signal. You will likely not be able to predict when you will be sued, investigated, or otherwise thrown into the lime-light. Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

Why limit this to text based communication? How about also limiting what you say when talking with friends in a pub, just in case the conversation gets recorded and then leaked? What about conversations around the dinner table with your family? What about chat between you and your significant other in the bedroom? What about things you say out loud when on your own? What about your thoughts?

> What about your thoughts?

This is the endgame. The perfect citizen will not be capable of thinking the undesired thoughts.

Who says AI alignment / brain washing is impossible?! We are doing a pretty good jobs with humans.

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by 71a54xd »

The way his phone was compromised was likely with targeted malware like Pegasus v2. Even if you're deleting messages it wouldn't matter, because whatever you're seeing on the screen / typing is all being logged and transmitted somewhere else.

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by pfannkuchen »

reducesuffering wrote: post #6

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Are we asserting here that the traditional rules of martial engagement are the same across all cultures in the world? Or we are saying that European cultures are not fairly similar to one another in this regard, due to a shared religious heritage? I’m confused what people are angry about here.

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by web3-is-a-scam »

reducesuffering wrote: post #6

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This is an extremely misleading representation of what his text said. Shame on you. Here's the rest:

> Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid, and would be crushed if he was killed. If I don’t care about those things, if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is?

More people should do this kind of self-reflection.

You are the exact kind of Liar (yes, it deserves a big L) that Tucker was talking about in his tweet the other day when he said the media was full of lies:

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1656037032538390530...

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by valianteffort »

JohnMakin wrote: post #2

> Think twice before sending a message, even over Signal. You will likely not be able to predict when you will be sued, investigated, or otherwise thrown into the lime-light. Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

I am requesting that publicly share all of your text messages for the past 10 years. Surely you have nothing you wouldn't want public, or things that any group would find offensive.

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by JohnMakin »

web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #16
reducesuffering wrote: post #6

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This is an extremely misleading representation of what his text said. Shame on you. Here's the rest: > Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it.…

Oh yes, that makes it much better.

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by NotYourLawyer »

JohnMakin wrote: post #2

> Think twice before sending a message, even over Signal. You will likely not be able to predict when you will be sued, investigated, or otherwise thrown into the lime-light. Or, radical new idea here, how about conduct yourself in a reasonable way where if everyone in the world read your text messages you wouldn't be fired or go to jail?

This only works if you are also clairvoyant.

There are plenty of things that were uncontroversial a decade ago that would now incite a twitter mob.

Re: Tucker’s Message Fiasco Is the Wakeup Call You Need to Auto-Delete Your Messages

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Post by web3-is-a-scam »

JohnMakin wrote: post #18
web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an extremely misleading representation of what his text said. Shame on you. Here's the rest: > Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it.…

Oh yes, that makes it much better.

Yes, it actually does. You've never had intrusive thoughts or been caught up in mob/tribalisitc mentality?
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