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When it doesn't happen with any other makes, yes! Cost cutting out industry standard anti-theft tech should be the car companies responsibility. Also....17 other local prosecutors, not just Baltimore.
Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
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Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
#12even after reading the article this lawsuit makes no sense.
inherently a car that can easily be repaired can easily be stolen. the implication is that Baltimore does not want cars that can easily be modified so they cannot easily be stolen.
troubling to say the least. then again, baltimore isn't exactly the pinnacle of governance.
take the iphone for example, which are notoriously difficult to use if stolen. the result has been people tend not to steal iphones as much (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-19/how-an-ip...).
however the result is you have less control of your device. is this a worthy tradeoff?
Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consider reading the article The concerns are valid >Certain Kia or Hyundai models can be stolen using a screwdriver and a USB charging cord. >Cleveland, St. Louis and Seattle are among the other cities that started suing the the car companies earlier this year. Baltimore’s lawsuit says the companies “failed to keep up with industry standards,” and claim it was a result of business decisions made to reduce costs and…
The article sounds like if you leave the door open you should assume anybody will enter and steal you. This is reversing the victim to the victimary. In a sexist way would be similar that you are being raped because you wear some specific clothes. Or you are hacked because you don't apply a patch.
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Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
#14even after reading the article this lawsuit makes no sense. inherently a car that can easily be repaired can easily be stolen. the implication is that Baltimore does not want cars that can easily be modified so they cannot easily be stolen. troubling to say the least. then again, baltimore isn't exactly the pinnacle of governance. take the iphone for example, which are notoriously difficult to use if stolen. the resu…
Right? Why don’t we all have our catalytic converters digitally paired with the Engine Control Unit iPhone-style? Is it the manufacturer’s fault for not doing that?
Heck, just like an iPhone, let’s have all parts on a car from the headlamps to the door handles to the mirrors digitally paired together. That would stop theft, and any car maker who doesn’t do it is encouraging theft.
Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consider reading the article The concerns are valid >Certain Kia or Hyundai models can be stolen using a screwdriver and a USB charging cord. >Cleveland, St. Louis and Seattle are among the other cities that started suing the the car companies earlier this year. Baltimore’s lawsuit says the companies “failed to keep up with industry standards,” and claim it was a result of business decisions made to reduce costs and…
The article sounds like if you leave the door open you should assume anybody will enter and steal you. This is reversing the victim to the victimary. In a sexist way would be similar that you are being raped because you wear some specific clothes. Or you are hacked because you don't apply a patch.
Lets do not jump into emotional arguments
Car makers should make their cars as hard as reasonably possible to steal.
If dumb ass tenager can do that, the it is a mess
Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
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We got a car in the mid 1990s with better anti-theft features. The only reason that these manufacturers are manufacturing cars this way is because other people are bearing the cost of theft.
Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
#17I have an older (2011) Kia and took it in for a firmware update. It changed two things:
1. Alarm sounds for 60s, increased from 30s
2. The key must be in the ignition for the vehicle to start
Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
#18Lots of comments that didn’t read the article so here’s a good excerpt on why there’s a lawsuit. Baltimore’s lawsuit says the companies “failed to keep up with industry standards,” and claim it was a result of business decisions made to reduce costs and boost profits “notwithstanding decades of academic literature and research supporting the deterrent effects” of anti-theft technology. “The dramatically increased rat…
It’s also worth noting that this was all started with a viral TikTok video showing Hire ridiculously easy it is to steal a Kia/Hyundai is. Here’s a collection of graphs showing the before and after of theft data in major cities. https://usafacts.org/data-projects/car-thefts
Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
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If they are not following industry standards on securing the car, then yes the car manufacturers should be liable.
Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts
#20Imagine if a city sued homeowners because it’s their fault for calling the police after a break-in, because they used a deadbolt that failed the LockPickingLawyer. This is about equally as sane. Yes, yes, I know that Hyundai and Kia vehicles are easy pickings, but they talk as though “those vehicles are easy to steal, so those teenagers, they just felt so compelled to…” Nobody forces somebody to steal a car. If anti-…
It turns out, people will download a car.