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Re: The Epic Stack

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Post by rufius »

lucasyvas wrote: post #33

Without fail, every article from Kent C. Dodds shows what appears to be total inexperience despite claims of the contrary. The advice is, at this point, almost meme worthy. There's an infamous post from 2021 (that he may have been roasted for here): https://kentcdodds.com/blog/how-i-built-a-modern-website-in-... Almost every single piece of advice is wildly overcomplicated and ridiculous. I do like some of the techno…

I agree.

The article reads like satire. I can’t tell if he’s making fun of the hoops you have to jump through to make a “modern web app”.

Re: The Epic Stack

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Post by Freebytes »

Hello, Beginners! Try out an entire ecosystem of tools and then discover that you made a mistake...

Or just install Visual Studio and create a C# web application using the recommendations in the IDE and a 20 minute video on YouTube.

This article might be some kind of parody, though. I really cannot tell.

Re: The Epic Stack

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Post by djfobbz »

lucasyvas wrote: post #33

Without fail, every article from Kent C. Dodds shows what appears to be total inexperience despite claims of the contrary. The advice is, at this point, almost meme worthy. There's an infamous post from 2021 (that he may have been roasted for here): https://kentcdodds.com/blog/how-i-built-a-modern-website-in-... Almost every single piece of advice is wildly overcomplicated and ridiculous. I do like some of the techno…

His article is the epic antithesis of the KISS principle. Imagine being a beginner wanting to get into web app development and then finding out that the most "Epic Stack" requires you to learn 26 different pieces of technology, each with its own millions of nuances. SMH!

Re: The Epic Stack

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Post by ponyous »

lucasyvas wrote: post #33

Without fail, every article from Kent C. Dodds shows what appears to be total inexperience despite claims of the contrary. The advice is, at this point, almost meme worthy. There's an infamous post from 2021 (that he may have been roasted for here): https://kentcdodds.com/blog/how-i-built-a-modern-website-in-... Almost every single piece of advice is wildly overcomplicated and ridiculous. I do like some of the techno…

What advice is meme worthy? Can you be more specific?

You are just saying it's not good, that you would not advise to follow him, etc...

> The proliferation of his perspective has, quite literally, been a pain in my ass daily trying to re-teach misguided fundamentals

Again can you give an example?

I feel like he gives sound advice, but I just recently discovered him.

Re: The Epic Stack

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Post by replwoacause »

solatic wrote: post #4

I have mixed opinions seeing Tailwind on that list. If you're not a designer, it takes a non-trivial amount of time to add the utility classes you need to get something that looks passable. Quite simply, it gives you too much control over something that just doesn't matter for an MVP. There are great component libraries out there (I'm a fan of Chakra) that give you sane defaults so that you can get something off the…

I don’t use frameworks like React or Vue because my apps are small and mostly just for me, so I wish there were component libraries out there like Chakra that didn’t require npm, yarn, or some other package manager to install, and then a framework to use. I just want to slap a CDN link in my HEAD tag of my vanilla HTML page and start using class names to create components. Ideally, these components would have behavior functionality as well so I don’t have to use another library like HTMX or Alpine.js to add it. It seems to me something like this _should_ be possible.

Re: The Epic Stack

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Post by MentallyRetired »

rufius wrote: post #41
lucasyvas wrote: post #33

Without fail, every article from Kent C. Dodds shows what appears to be total inexperience despite claims of the contrary. The advice is, at this point, almost meme worthy. There's an infamous post from 2021 (that he may have been roasted for here): https://kentcdodds.com/blog/how-i-built-a-modern-website-in-... Almost every single piece of advice is wildly overcomplicated and ridiculous. I do like some of the techno…

I agree. The article reads like satire. I can’t tell if he’s making fun of the hoops you have to jump through to make a “modern web app”.

I also agree. I thought it was a joke. Once I got to the logos I was sure it was a joke.

Re: The Epic Stack

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Post by Paul-Craft »

lucasyvas wrote: post #33

Without fail, every article from Kent C. Dodds shows what appears to be total inexperience despite claims of the contrary. The advice is, at this point, almost meme worthy. There's an infamous post from 2021 (that he may have been roasted for here): https://kentcdodds.com/blog/how-i-built-a-modern-website-in-... Almost every single piece of advice is wildly overcomplicated and ridiculous. I do like some of the techno…

He was, indeed, fairly well roasted for it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28818829

Re: The Epic Stack

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Post by ohduran »

maxcan wrote: post #27
tmorton wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the niche for https://tailwindui.com - which is how the Tailwind creators make money. If you're convinced by the overall Tailwind philosophy, it's a steal at the price they charge.

Personally I feel like TailwindUI is a missed opportunity. Their opposition to abstracted utility classes means that anything you want to do has incredibly long, unreadable classes. Its quite a bit of work to abstract away the bits that you want. https://daisyui.com is my absolute sweet spot for abstraction. Its a bit limited, especially compared to TwUI and flowbite but its developer experience is a joy.

Oh man this is wonderful, thanks for the recommendation!
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