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Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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"There is zero chance I am ever deactivating it or paying for Premium now, that ship has sailed."

Hmm, if google starts banning accounts they would deactivate it in a heartbeat. This is what I’m mostly afraid of when using adblockers. I don’t want to wake up to a banned account.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Performance and security may be my primary reasons for using an ad-blocker, but I must also admit that I would not remove the blocker even if those issues were addressed. On the rare occasion that I have used a computer without an ad blocker, I have found that advertising is so intrusive that I would rather not use the web.

This is why I don't read news articles on my phone. It's absolutely ridiculous what publishers do with ads

I run a PiHole in the cloud and VPN into it from my phone. Does the job of blocking ads pretty damn well.

What often ends up happening though is there will be a big empty box where the ad is supposed to be. And it's outright appalling how many ads they try to shove onto your screen. Every paragraph is separated by an ad.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#883
My main worry is not so much this change, but rather when they decide that this also applies to Premium. I've been paying for a bit, and run an ad blocker. I'm concerned that it will be too tempting start putting ads back into Premium and require ad blockers be disabled. Of course I'm speculating, but this is the scenario where I'm out.

I could also see them splitting Premium into "Basic Premium", "Grand Premium", and "Ultimate Premium" where one shows some ads and the other shows "minimal" ads.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#884
They need to maintain a balance of sustainability for all parties. That means not pushing too hard in any given direction.

YT and Alphabet may seem too-big-to-fail, but in truth there are endless reams of content and services out there vying for people's attention.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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>people do not want to pay People don't want to pay for subscriptions because everything has become a bait and switch with infinite tiers! Whether it's the local newspaper, or a mega-tech company's corporate offerings. I tried subscribing (online) to my hometown newspaper within the last year. And a major national news publication. You know how people say (or used to) that the garbage on the internet is the fault of…

YouTube premium has just one tier. And before you raise the hypothetical question of additional tiers in future, by that kind of logic people shouldn't make any recurring purchase of anything since in future terms might change.

there are at least 2 tiers: "Youtube Premium" and "Youtube Premium Lite"

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#886

It is not just about youtube. The whole internet is bloated with ads right now, and the vast majority of them quite the opposite of discrete. I just cannot browse the internet without adblocker, it is too slow, but more importantly too distracting. I could count the times that I have found an internet ad interesting in my lifetime using half the fingers of one hand. Personalised or not, the vast majority is useless,…

Bandcamp is interesting and I am considering it and cancel Spotify. How do you go about discovering music? I use Spotify for not only listening to my artists but for music discovery too.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#887

It is not just about youtube. The whole internet is bloated with ads right now, and the vast majority of them quite the opposite of discrete. I just cannot browse the internet without adblocker, it is too slow, but more importantly too distracting. I could count the times that I have found an internet ad interesting in my lifetime using half the fingers of one hand. Personalised or not, the vast majority is useless,…

A side effect of ads (and something that ad blockers mask, giving websites a normal appearance) is that ad supported websites have the wrong incentive.

When you browse a website with no ads, you are the public. Content is provided for your use, and that's all.

When you visit an ad supported website, you are only the means to achieve an end, which is to have you in the site as much as possible, clicking on as much ads as possible. That usually had the effect of making the website content bloated.

Not all sites begin like that, but they all end like that. And ad blocking hides that ugly truth under a layer of normalcy.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#888

It is not just about youtube. The whole internet is bloated with ads right now, and the vast majority of them quite the opposite of discrete. I just cannot browse the internet without adblocker, it is too slow, but more importantly too distracting. I could count the times that I have found an internet ad interesting in my lifetime using half the fingers of one hand. Personalised or not, the vast majority is useless,…

I have a massive collection of Mp3s and wav files on my phone... Have cultivated it for decades now. I rarely stream music because of ads and bandwidth throttling that my mobile data provider implements.

About 2 weeks ago, I heard Black Player (App), which already works in a very unexpectedly and illogically difficult and frustrating manner, started injecting ads into my normal music library. I may just need to charge up my old iPod from now on, it doesn't ever need weekly software updates for some strange reason like everything else.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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It is not just about youtube. The whole internet is bloated with ads right now, and the vast majority of them quite the opposite of discrete. I just cannot browse the internet without adblocker, it is too slow, but more importantly too distracting. I could count the times that I have found an internet ad interesting in my lifetime using half the fingers of one hand. Personalised or not, the vast majority is useless,…

A good way to think about the tracking urls attached to majority of websites these days, is as many different cameras tracking each person as it enters buildings and stores, using face-recognition.

Thus it stores all the places you have been and with ML and AI create some sort of personal file, with all kinds of attributes. (the more the better)

uBlock and others block these cameras from seeing your face.

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