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Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by Jedd »

chrysoprace wrote: post #156

As someone who generally likes the Pixel line of phones (not a fanboy; I just enjoy the stock+ android experience), I'm sceptical of the support on this tablet. My old Nexus tablet (I think it's the Nexus 7) is generally useless beyond basic offline usage because it doesn't get OS updates any more. Given the price, it's going to be a hard thing to justify at AUD$899 if it's going to be a security liability after 2028…

Similarly keen on sticking with Pixel handsets.

As a sibling noted, LineageOS would be the answer to 'what to do when Google EOL's this', in no small part because this is going to be a popular device.

My old top-of-the-line Samsung 12" lost support within a few minutes of it being released, but LineageOS support there is also good, and predictably it was faster without all the Samsung cruft.

Right now to replace that Samsung device it'd be a toss-up between this tablet, and the Lenovo P11 (at half the price). I'd prefer a slightly larger screen (1:1 ratio to physical text ebooks) but I expect both would have similar after-market life (via lineage).

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by modzu »

usernew wrote: post #270
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

here's the thing with wireless charing - and this may not apply to your use case. when you're plugged in, you're running on the cable. my laptop for example, which I set to charge to 80% and stop, is pretty much always plugged in unless I'm carrying it between rooms. my phone - an android phone - has always been plugged in to charge. the battery acts as a surge protector. now what happens when you wireless charge. yo…

wires are a mess.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by wittekm »

usernew wrote: post #270
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

here's the thing with wireless charing - and this may not apply to your use case. when you're plugged in, you're running on the cable. my laptop for example, which I set to charge to 80% and stop, is pretty much always plugged in unless I'm carrying it between rooms. my phone - an android phone - has always been plugged in to charge. the battery acts as a surge protector. now what happens when you wireless charge. yo…

I do wonder if something like the MagSafe (laptop) adaptor would strike a happy medium.

Also - I don't know if Apple's 15w Qi is strong enough for a tablet.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by krzyk »

tomComb wrote: post #227
mindvirus wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The charging dock is cool, but feels like a missed opportunity to have it be a regular Google Home speaker when the tablet is undocked.

That was the headline error in the Verge's coverage too ... The Pixel Tablet is half of what it could have been https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/11/23718860/pixel-tablet-doc... But I really don't understand - that would require the dock to have a screen, a SoC, mic's etc. That would be a completely different and much more expensive piece of hardware. No way they could have included that with the tablet, unless they ca…

Why a screen in a speaker? Minis don't have them

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by chefandy »

Freedom2 wrote: post #233
vineyardmike wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I recently worked at we did “market research” and we basically came to the conclusion that apple is probably waiting to see reactions to pixel tablet dock to decide if it should be an iPad first or HomePod first.

What's interesting is that even when Apple follows a design or trend, their fans can often claim that Apple innovates it at the same time. For example, Android has had wireless charging and USB-C ages before Apple, but when Apple started to use them, their fans said something along the lines of 'Apple refined and innovated on the prototype concept, and are first to deliver a working, solid product', despite the Andro…

I'm not currently in the apple ecosystem at all, but am a long-time apple product user and have been on a first-name basis with hundreds of iPhone users since they came out. 100% of the awful statements and stances towards the android ecosystem or any of its constituents I've seen attributed to "apple fans" have come from people mad at apple and apple users. Zero percent– really— have I heard from actual Apple users.

One of the big selling points of iPhones is that if you have a phone released within 3 or 4 years, you don't have to think about the capabilities of your phone. At all. I'm not saying they're objectively better, it's just geared towards users who want their phone to get out of the way and do it's thing, and that's fine. If there's a trove of apple users somewhere that have strong opinions about Android phones, I've never encountered them.

I'll never understand why some people get so wrapped around the axle about phones.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by seabrookmx »

rektide wrote: post #196
seabrookmx wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recall Google briefly supporting using ChromeOS as a Chromecast "target" but only for specially blessed "education" Chromebooks. Chromecast seems pretty locked down but it would be really freaking cool to retrofit old devices (or something like a raspi) into a Chromecast simply by installing an app.

There is a great lovely w3c spec to do Chromecast, but as an open protocol. A remote control protocol for the web. https://github.com/w3c/openscreenprotocol I really hope we can do it. So far it's almost exclusively Google putting the work, to take their tech (derived from Netflix's common sense/simple Dial protocol) & re-protocol-ize it again. Such amazing benevolence, in my view. But if you want tech to succeed, yo…

So basically what happened with HTTP/2 and HTTP/3. Really cool, thanks for sharing!

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by kalleboo »

usernew wrote: post #270
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

here's the thing with wireless charing - and this may not apply to your use case. when you're plugged in, you're running on the cable. my laptop for example, which I set to charge to 80% and stop, is pretty much always plugged in unless I'm carrying it between rooms. my phone - an android phone - has always been plugged in to charge. the battery acts as a surge protector. now what happens when you wireless charge. yo…

It's like $50 to get your battery replaced. The convenience is worth $50 (I'd spend more than that on worn-out lightning cables)

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by kalleboo »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #222
sumedh wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's kinda stupid that Apple Its marketing, by locking that feature you are forced to buy more iPads for other family members.

> you are forced to buy more iPads for other family members Who does this? 5% of consumers? I think they-misestimate anyone's desire to be wastefull, both ecologically and financially.

By looking at people I know and their tablet ownership, I think you're the one mis-estimating.

But the psychology probably goes further than "I'll buy everyone in the family a tablet" and is more like "Well I was thinking of maybe upgrading soon in a year or two, and anyway I'm tired of loaning the kids my tablet, how about I buy that new shiny one for myself and the kids can have this one?" to just push people over a threshold of spending

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by Freedom2 »

chefandy wrote: post #275
Freedom2 wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's interesting is that even when Apple follows a design or trend, their fans can often claim that Apple innovates it at the same time. For example, Android has had wireless charging and USB-C ages before Apple, but when Apple started to use them, their fans said something along the lines of 'Apple refined and innovated on the prototype concept, and are first to deliver a working, solid product', despite the Andro…

I'm not currently in the apple ecosystem at all, but am a long-time apple product user and have been on a first-name basis with hundreds of iPhone users since they came out. 100% of the awful statements and stances towards the android ecosystem or any of its constituents I've seen attributed to "apple fans" have come from people mad at apple and apple users. Zero percent– really— have I heard from actual Apple users.…

>If there's a trove of apple users somewhere that have strong opinions about Android phones

Is using /r/apple cheating? ;)

To be clear, I envy Apple's long-term support for their products and no one can deny the fantastic build quality. I know that MacBooks can occasionally get some dislike here, but I genuinely really like the few I have, aside from my butterfly keyboard one, which is the odd child of the bunch.

The earliest occurrence of this that I can remember is when the iPhone X introduced OLED displays, back when the burn in occurred much faster. People were swearing up and down that Apple's OLED would be of a higher standard and wouldn't burn it in at all (not an exaggeration), not like those pesky Samsung phones!

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by kalleboo »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #186
foverzar wrote: post #96

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Wonder who downvotes this. The sole reason why I chose samsung tab over iPad is that iPad is essentially useless as a shared family device - the UX of switching accounts inside apps is just terrible. Tablet should definitely be a multiuser device and it's kinda stupid that Apple actually has multiple accounts functionality, but it only works for school or enterprise.

> iPad is essentially useless as a shared family device - the UX of switching accounts inside apps is just terrible. What does "multiuser" mean to you? The traditional home PC was shared by everyone in the family, all using the same account. What do you accomplish by running multiple accounts on the iPad?

Even MacOS 9 supported multiple user accounts
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