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Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by dmitrygr »

ianai wrote: post #217
dmitrygr wrote: post #99

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> Best I can tell, every few years some product owners get together to once again do Google's Big Push For Tablets For Real This Time We Swear and the initiative goes until they get their promotions and then it's forgotten until the next round a few years later You are 100% correct. Source: was part of two such pushes while working at goog

You figure google could ever change their ways? Like if enough backlash hit their products? Anything?

It would require a change of leadership. The incentives that make this happen come from the top. Until the board and starts firing some of the top leadership, I wouldn’t hope for much change.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by wilg »

tomComb wrote: post #227
mindvirus wrote: post #76

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The charging dock is cool, but feels like a missed opportunity to have it be a regular Google Home speaker when the tablet is undocked.

That was the headline error in the Verge's coverage too ... The Pixel Tablet is half of what it could have been https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/11/23718860/pixel-tablet-doc... But I really don't understand - that would require the dock to have a screen, a SoC, mic's etc. That would be a completely different and much more expensive piece of hardware. No way they could have included that with the tablet, unless they ca…

Put the $49 Google Home Mini in the dock and charge $99 for it as an add-on.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by Freedom2 »

vineyardmike wrote: post #207
madeofpalk wrote: post #139

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Apple has been rumoured to develop a HomePod/iPad dock thing for a while. I hope it happens (but not like this terrible mockup) https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/15/apple-ipad-dock-smart-h...

When I recently worked at we did “market research” and we basically came to the conclusion that apple is probably waiting to see reactions to pixel tablet dock to decide if it should be an iPad first or HomePod first.

What's interesting is that even when Apple follows a design or trend, their fans can often claim that Apple innovates it at the same time. For example, Android has had wireless charging and USB-C ages before Apple, but when Apple started to use them, their fans said something along the lines of 'Apple refined and innovated on the prototype concept, and are first to deliver a working, solid product', despite the Android ones working... fine?

I wonder if we'll see the same with these docks.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by jaimex2 »

sumedh wrote: post #155
foverzar wrote: post #96

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Wonder who downvotes this. The sole reason why I chose samsung tab over iPad is that iPad is essentially useless as a shared family device - the UX of switching accounts inside apps is just terrible. Tablet should definitely be a multiuser device and it's kinda stupid that Apple actually has multiple accounts functionality, but it only works for school or enterprise.

> it's kinda stupid that Apple Its marketing, by locking that feature you are forced to buy more iPads for other family members.

Apple has conditioned its user base to spend on its products. They honestly buy and upgrade whenever told and that includes multiple iPads.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by stevenhuang »

RandomThrow321 wrote: post #56
ablyveiled wrote: post #35

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Wireless charging kills batteries faster -- that's why I personally avoid it.

Do you have a source? I thought this has been thoroughly debunked.

> thoroughly debunked.

I wish people would stop using this phrase.

Especially when they couldn't be more wrong.

Heat degrades batteries, wireless charging generally comes with more heat from the lower efficiency.

But at the end of the day it most likely won't matter as people get new phones every few years anyways.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by LoganDark »

p1necone wrote: post #171
squeaky-clean wrote: post #114

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Whose desktop? 72 ppi would be a 1080p screen at 30". Or 1366x768 at 22". That's pretty low ppi even for your average Joe. They also said their desktop. Though I don't know what resolution/size it would be to beat 266 ppi. I'm guessing a 4k laptop screen, as a 4k 24" monitor is only 183ppi.

72dpi was normal/standard... about two decades ago. About the closest thing we have to a "normal" desktop dpi nowadays is probably 24 inches @ 1920x1080, which is ~92dpi.

> About the closest thing we have to a "normal" desktop dpi nowadays is probably 24 inches @ 1920x1080, which is ~92dpi.

Funnily enough, 96dpi is actually the reference that Windows uses. 200% scaling factor is therefore 192dpi, and 250% is 240dpi.

Explains why Windows defaults to 250% scaling on 15" 4K monitors, like laptops. Or 125% on 15" 1080p monitors!

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by mattwad »

chrysoprace wrote: post #156

As someone who generally likes the Pixel line of phones (not a fanboy; I just enjoy the stock+ android experience), I'm sceptical of the support on this tablet. My old Nexus tablet (I think it's the Nexus 7) is generally useless beyond basic offline usage because it doesn't get OS updates any more. Given the price, it's going to be a hard thing to justify at AUD$899 if it's going to be a security liability after 2028…

My Lenovo Smart Display is completely borked since they removed the ability to view the web on it - simply because it's a "third party device"

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by anderspitman »

noarchy wrote: post #230
stefan_ wrote: post #22

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Uhm wasn't the Nexus 7 the tablet that literally bricked itself within a year by the storage degrading to floppy speed?

>Uhm So strange to see these fillers typed out on HN and reddit. >wasn't the Nexus 7 the tablet that literally bricked itself within a year by the storage degrading to floppy speed? The 2012 version that I owned did precisely that. It was a great device for the time, and it is unfortunate that they discontinued it after just a few iterations.

It's not a filler in this context

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by cheq »

crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

charging docks are cool, but they're a little inconvenient for traveling and portable needs

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by zzzeek »

chrysoprace wrote: post #156

As someone who generally likes the Pixel line of phones (not a fanboy; I just enjoy the stock+ android experience), I'm sceptical of the support on this tablet. My old Nexus tablet (I think it's the Nexus 7) is generally useless beyond basic offline usage because it doesn't get OS updates any more. Given the price, it's going to be a hard thing to justify at AUD$899 if it's going to be a security liability after 2028…

I had a previous generation Pixel C some years back and they absolutely don't provide software updates for nearly long enough, it became useless junk within a couple of years. contrast to iPads which work for 5+ years. i have a pixel phone but for tablets it's only Apple.
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