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Re: Pixel Tablet

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> Can the iPad do background sync of third-party file storage services like Nextcloud without having the app open in the first place yet? Yeah it can. I believe apps get free access to background jobs while the device is plugged in. Not too sure the details but I use Google Photos and the photos seem to background sync fine without me thinking about it. Sideloading is hopefully coming soon with the new EU laws. Thoug…

If it has to be plugged in, what good is it as a tablet? People need constant, real-time sync to avoid conflicts and make sure people from the field get their data back to whoever needs it. In the EU. For consumers, can iPad OS do multiple users yet?

Have a look around, these people out in the field are all using iPads. Somehow they manage.

Android tablets are usually given to kids or used as basic retail displays.

Re: Pixel Tablet

#193

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

It's quite fascinating. Apple ships their tablet with a stylus, while Google ships theirs with a charger-speaker-dock. Apple is saying "this is for the creatives" while Google is saying "this is a home console".

"Apple ships their tablet with a stylus"

Huh?

Re: Pixel Tablet

#194

As someone who generally likes the Pixel line of phones (not a fanboy; I just enjoy the stock+ android experience), I'm sceptical of the support on this tablet. My old Nexus tablet (I think it's the Nexus 7) is generally useless beyond basic offline usage because it doesn't get OS updates any more. Given the price, it's going to be a hard thing to justify at AUD$899 if it's going to be a security liability after 2028…

The Nexus 7 is from 2012 or 2013, depending on which one you have.

Re: Pixel Tablet

#196
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Has anyone tried loading the Chromecast app onto an existing phone or tablet? It looks like there's just an android app that runs but it probably isn't quite as simple as that, but I also haven't tried. That you can cast to this seems like such a basic & obvious step.

I recall Google briefly supporting using ChromeOS as a Chromecast "target" but only for specially blessed "education" Chromebooks. Chromecast seems pretty locked down but it would be really freaking cool to retrofit old devices (or something like a raspi) into a Chromecast simply by installing an app.

There is a great lovely w3c spec to do Chromecast, but as an open protocol. A remote control protocol for the web. https://github.com/w3c/openscreenprotocol

I really hope we can do it. So far it's almost exclusively Google putting the work, to take their tech (derived from Netflix's common sense/simple Dial protocol) & re-protocol-ize it again.

Such amazing benevolence, in my view. But if you want tech to succeed, you need to set it free. If you love it set it free. Create more value than you capture. Again here as in many places, I can say, thank you Google. You empower a great connected medium. It is good. These acts are great.

Re: Pixel Tablet

#197

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

Apple used to know how to do this:

The Apple Macintosh PowerBook Duo Dock turns a PowerBook Duo into a full-featured desktop Macintosh including a 1.44 MB floppy disk drive, a complete set of desktop ports, and NuBus slots as well as the options of a secondary 230 MB hard drive and a 68882 FPU to improve performance.

The Duo Dock is compatible with all of the grayscale PowerBook Duos (210, 230, 250, 280), but can also support the color Duos (270c, 280c, 2300c/100) with a replacement lid.

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_duo/specs/mac_p...

Re: Pixel Tablet

#198

Well, better late than never. Many, many years ago when Android 2 was all the rage, Motorola has shipped Xoom tablet with Android 3. That Android version turned out to be a dead end, and the whole line of tablets went nowhere. Next Google's attempt at tablets was Nexus 7 device, which was actually great, esp 2013 version that still lays around somewhere in my office and sees occasional use. But then, Google kind of f…

Well, there was the Pixel C in 2015. It was Android based and went nowhere. Then there was the Pixel Slate in 2018. It was Chrome OS based, and also went nowhere. If you bought a Pixel Slate, a new Google tablet has been five years in the making. Except that the Pixel Tablet isn't really a replacement. It's back to Android, and this time, no keyboard or pen options in sight.

I briefly owned a Pixel C and found it to be a buggy mess. Ultimately returned it. Wouldn’t be a surprise if that were a major factor in it being a flop.

Re: Pixel Tablet

#199
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Wonder who downvotes this. The sole reason why I chose samsung tab over iPad is that iPad is essentially useless as a shared family device - the UX of switching accounts inside apps is just terrible. Tablet should definitely be a multiuser device and it's kinda stupid that Apple actually has multiple accounts functionality, but it only works for school or enterprise.

> it's kinda stupid that Apple Its marketing, by locking that feature you are forced to buy more iPads for other family members.

Yeah, honestly it probably forces more sales than it prevents people from buying ipads at all.

Re: Pixel Tablet

#200

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If it has to be plugged in, what good is it as a tablet? People need constant, real-time sync to avoid conflicts and make sure people from the field get their data back to whoever needs it. In the EU. For consumers, can iPad OS do multiple users yet?

Have a look around, these people out in the field are all using iPads. Somehow they manage. Android tablets are usually given to kids or used as basic retail displays.

Bold of you to assume I don't actively research and keep up with the latest products and OS.

iPads are also not uncommonly given to kids too; what kind of counterargument is that? Puerile.

The point still remains: the iPad doesn't do what I and others require. If you love the iPad, great, but it's not everything to everyone.

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