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Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#211
This is a pretty cool way to tackle this problem, but I don't think there's any "easy" solution to this problem space, which I visualize as:

News media needs to make money. To do so it needs eyeballs. Eyeballs, despite our best efforts and intensions, can't help but be drawn to sensation (and blood). The news media thus selects for sensation and blood.

The add-on effect of this that makes it all matter: recency bias as well as some other cognitive quirks we all have mean that when the news media selects for sensation and blood, we start to believe the universe is a lot more sensational and bloody than it really is.

This is demonstrable: publish a story about a freak one in a million train accident and people stop riding the train and start taking their cars, despite risk of accident in car being by every way of measuring it drastically higher.

I'm not saying that news media shouldn't talk about train crashes, I'm saying I'm not sure we've figured out yet how to remind people that the world is actually mundane. People watch the news to "be informed," but in actuality their perspection of reality is being warped.

The news would have you believe crime is going up or down based on whether it makes a good story, when (depending on where you live) the relatively minor adjustmens in these statistics really don't affect you, every walk to work statistically speaking will leave you unmolested.

The media would have you believe that there are riots across the country in response to the cops killing an unarmed person, again. When in reality, most protests are really quite boring, just a lot of people walking around and maybe occasionally chanting. If there even is a local protest.

I don't know what it will take to remind people that the world is boring, but right now the news media is motivated against this, because the angrier and more scared we all are, the more we click in.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Summarized bullshit is still bullshit akin to a polished turd. Given that the choice of which articles to write is incredibly biased to begin with this approach does not seem effective. What could theoretically work is an “AI news agency” that “summarizes” many different sources to generate unbiased articles.

>What could theoretically work is an “AI news agency” that “summarizes” many different sources to generate unbiased articles. NewsMinimalist does this, it’s quite interesting. I’ve been using it since its introduction, and its been a fun way to get lots of summarized, de-sensationalized headlines. Specifically I enjoy setting it to 6.0 and reading the headlines that have impact that didn’t quite reach the 6.5+ thresh…

Another great idea though also very US centric like the app in this post. Hopefully this comes to more places

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Being angry from news like this isn't a bad thing. You SHOULD be angry. Why? What are you going to do? Just get high off the dopamine drip fed by social media rage cycles? Angry rants on Twitter? Maybe start a Youtube channel and make a buck or two with banal political essays? Recognize that the news is designed to make you angry because that anger prevents you from taking any form of effective action, it misdirects…

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There are counter protestors in Russia, but they are quashed pretty quickly by Putin's government.

The media, which we're discussing right now, was leveraged to turn the Russian people in favor of the invasion of Ukraine, and against any "traitor" that protested against it.

Emotions aren't inherently bad, but I don't trust any emotional reaction the news media is trying to invoke. The news media is a firm institution of the status quo. I don't think anger from news stories will do much more than create controlled opposition. Notice how as soon as your anger puts you on the street in protests, they immediately turn on you and call you a rioter? Or if you egg a virulent transphobe, suddenly you're some kind of almost assassin?

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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post #47

Thanks for doing this. This is something I've been looking for since ChatGPT was unveiled generally. I wish Feedly or a similar RSS/News-aggregator would add a feature like this ... it would make so much sense.

We plan to implement RSS support as well, so please stay tuned. Thanks for the support.

I'm a paying feedly customer . FWIW I would move into your paid service if you implemented rss. I moved to feedly when greader was killed, but never liked feedly that much.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#217
This is the kind of app that I imagine would get popular, then it gets bought out, then the new executives would turn to each other and put a negative sign somewhere in the code turning the newly acquired app into a sensationalizer that does the opposite of its original purpose, for more engagement and corporate metrics.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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post #22

JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon testified before a Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs hearing on September 22, 2022. Dimon mentioned that as the U.S. nears a potential default on its sovereign debt, markets could experience panic. ... [1] He said that today, but in an interview with Bloomberg. The source article[2] just illustrates it with an archive photo from 2022, when he testified in a Senate hearing. Simi…

I base all my stock picks on the logos used.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#219

I think this is an amazing idea! The only flaw I see with it is that without the sensationalized headlines I read through going "Oh that doesn't matter, that doesn't matter either" etc haha I haven't found an article that sounds interesting in a few scrolls. I mean, it's great because it's accurate. Half of the "news" we're fed is sensationalized so we'll click on it and it's really nothing but it gets us riled up ab…

> Half of the "news" we're fed is sensationalized

Half? It's higher than that.

The other issue is - and your quoted "news" hints at it - a significant amount of what we're fed isn't news at all. Yes, it's something that happened. That doesn't make it news.

So while this app might remove the hyperbole what about the things and details that are being ignored? How do we fill the gaps so we're getting a more complete context?

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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post #217

This is the kind of app that I imagine would get popular, then it gets bought out, then the new executives would turn to each other and put a negative sign somewhere in the code turning the newly acquired app into a sensationalizer that does the opposite of its original purpose, for more engagement and corporate metrics.

We need a similar app that removes existentially cynical themes from HN comments
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