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Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#201

I think this is an amazing idea! The only flaw I see with it is that without the sensationalized headlines I read through going "Oh that doesn't matter, that doesn't matter either" etc haha I haven't found an article that sounds interesting in a few scrolls. I mean, it's great because it's accurate. Half of the "news" we're fed is sensationalized so we'll click on it and it's really nothing but it gets us riled up ab…

I think the issue here is that we've been fed a high-sensationalism diet, so our brains are acclimated to in-your-face headlines. Perhaps if we detoxed our brains a bit (by using this app exclusively for a week or two), we would be able to recalibrate our expectations for what seems "interesting". This is sort of like how you recalibrate your tongue to a low-salt diet if you stop eating salty food for a few weeks.

Just read a non-sensationalised news outlet ? It’s pretty easy to find.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#203

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This will be a combination of numerous fine-tuned models, def not using a default LLM. A bold statement but one I believe is correct. Even Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, believes this. Guess we'll see, my main priority is ensuring it's accurate and as unbiased as possible. It must work on every news site, both left and right wing.

I don’t think it’s a given that finetuning address pretraining bias, most LLMs you would have access to are trained on very similar and biased corpora, see any Anthropic or OpenAI alignment paper. It’s conceptually possible for extensive finetuning + MoE to work accurately enough for this premise to be feasible but it seems incredibly unlikely with what’s available today. In any case, using a non-explainable AI model…

I’m thinking a multi model approach from classification of a “bias” to the rewriting.

In a perfect world I’d also incorporate a database of scraped tweets and one day video dialog.

Idk about you, but I’d love to see the most racist tweets from a NYT or WSJ journalist, along with the articles they’ve written, a score associated with their content, etc.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#204

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I've come around to there being legitimate usecases for this type of generative AI, but I don't think producing anything that's supposed to be "True" or "Correct" is one. I think the only useful usecases is for when you want to generate fiction.

Writing summaries of documents and correspondence is one of the major use cases of those models. Desensitionalization and debullshittification are very similar to summarization, so it stands to reason LLMs should handle these tasks just as well.

I would not and do not trust them to do this in cases where I care about the accuracy of the output.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#205

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Isn’t coming to a news story from these specific political viewpoints already a whole lot of bias? I don’t think we can boil down most things into three separate POV. Not everything needs to be looked at through a political party’s perspective

They actually use a 5-dimension political spectrum. Left-right is not specific to any political party, dates back 200+ years and is extensively used in academic and nonacademic literature. What other system would you recommend for evaluating political bias in news?

> Left-right is not specific

You could have left it here.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

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I've come around to there being legitimate usecases for this type of generative AI, but I don't think producing anything that's supposed to be "True" or "Correct" is one. I think the only useful usecases is for when you want to generate fiction.

I’m to the point where I’d probably put more trust in an AI generated news summary than many of the sites that purport to give me accurate and truth worthy news.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think it’s a given that finetuning address pretraining bias, most LLMs you would have access to are trained on very similar and biased corpora, see any Anthropic or OpenAI alignment paper. It’s conceptually possible for extensive finetuning + MoE to work accurately enough for this premise to be feasible but it seems incredibly unlikely with what’s available today. In any case, using a non-explainable AI model…

I’m thinking a multi model approach from classification of a “bias” to the rewriting. In a perfect world I’d also incorporate a database of scraped tweets and one day video dialog. Idk about you, but I’d love to see the most racist tweets from a NYT or WSJ journalist, along with the articles they’ve written, a score associated with their content, etc.

This presupposes that NYT or WSJ journalists are making racist tweets in violation of ToS, workplace ethics policies, and basic human decency. Seeing as you’re making a very serious allegation do you have any proof?

I absolutely do not want to live in a world where I (or anyone) am worried that everything said will be publicly assigned an arbitrary “racist” score by a black box. I think most people would agree.

Re: Show HN: Boring Report, a news app that uses AI to desensationalize the news

#210

There's already - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news It's shows left, center, and right bias of new articles. Read the 'From the center' version of articles, and the bias and sensationalism has been removed - https://www.allsides.com/story/media-industry-cnn-staffers-c...

Center bias is as much of a bias as any other.
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