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BBEdit is 30 years old as a commercial product

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Re: BBEdit is 30 years old as a commercial product

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Order won't complete (after Paypal payment confirmed) -- "you must accept terms and conditions" message shows up, but no checkbox or other way to accept T&Cs. (Is the BB order website incompatible with Firefox on macOS, or failing due to load?)

Resize the browser window? I've seen UI magically appear when I do this. Worth a shot.

Re: BBEdit is 30 years old as a commercial product

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Ahh that gets me nostalgic for the pre-VSCode days. How is TextMate doing these days? I know they spent forever for TextMate 2.0, and that somehow fizzled out...?

Sublime Text 2 (its first cross-platform version) came on the scene around that time and I think drew away a lot of the crowd that had been waiting for TextMate 2.

Re: BBEdit is 30 years old as a commercial product

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>formerly TextEdit IIRC TextWrangler. TextEdit is the editor built in to macOS.

And TextWrangler formerly was BBEdit Lite ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBEdit#Freeware_versions )

Something ironic about a "bare bones" editor getting a 'lite' edition.

Re: BBEdit is 30 years old as a commercial product

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I started programming on Macs in the early 90s, and I used BBEdit the entire time that I was on the platform. I no longer work on Macs, but I would love to see a Linux version. Never going to happen, but it's one of the few pieces of software that I still miss.

Plus even if there were a Linux version it is now impossible (post-Pango-1.44) to make it display text in bitmap Monaco 9 :) https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/-/issues/386

Re: BBEdit is 30 years old as a commercial product

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BBEdit is invaluable to me and I will use it forever. That said, it has some persistent window focus bugs that spill over into finder that I dearly I wish that they would iron out. Otherwise, it is one of the most stable, reliable, and useful pieces of software that I have ever touched.

Re: BBEdit is 30 years old as a commercial product

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Ahh that gets me nostalgic for the pre-VSCode days. How is TextMate doing these days? I know they spent forever for TextMate 2.0, and that somehow fizzled out...?

>How is TextMate doing these days?

Use it as my main editor still, absolutely love it. Still gets updated a few times a year. Just find it more snappier to work with than webtech based editors and the shortcuts and workflows are all more native on MacOS than VSCode. Also a big fan of the mixed font/size/styling when working with Markdown docs.

Re: BBEdit is 30 years old as a commercial product

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Ahh that gets me nostalgic for the pre-VSCode days. How is TextMate doing these days? I know they spent forever for TextMate 2.0, and that somehow fizzled out...?

TM 2 was great, albeit somewhat abandoned, until Apple Silicon came along. There’s some sort of bug in the app that makes it regularly hang on launch on my M1 and M1 Max laptops.

Works fine on both my M1 machines, never seen this happen once. Maybe try a fresh install and transitioning over your settings bit by bit.

Re: BBEdit is 30 years old as a commercial product

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I love BBEdit and use it daily as my main text editor, and have since classic MacOS days! I'm hoping they add a couple of features:

- Ability to auto-format using Prettier.

- AI Large Language Model auto-complete for code. The field is moving fast, but I'd love to be able to use open models here. I don't want to send all my code to GitHub co-pilot.

BBedit has an excellent built in text-filter functionality and I've written scripts to send selected text as a prompt to various LLMs, but built-in would be ideal!

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