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My first time seeing Pharo. First impressions are that it reminds me strongly of Smalltalk with the single-source IDE and runtime. Not a bad thing, just an observation.
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Very cool. Smalltalk is one of those "I'd like to learn" languages for me.
it would take you about half an hour. absolute minimal syntax and fairly obvious semantics. of course, learning how to use it properly might take a little longer :-)
You need to know more method signatures to write any program in it. For example things like: someCollection do: [ :someArgument | "some code" ]. Stuff like that. It's still a lot less than most languages though.
I found that this really helps [1] and I find it more representative of how difficult the language actually is. The postcard example is a bit contrived.
[1] https://gist.github.com/jdevoo/8e8866cd6087e05790841d0f20b2e...
I used Pharo in my Object Oriented course at the Univeristy (for my CS degree) and I was really surprised for this paradigm. We saw Haskell and Pharo and I was really happy to discover new things from a language point of view. It is hard to say that Java or any other imperative language is OO after seeing Smalltalk/Pharo. About the question if it's used in production, the teacher for that segment of the course was a…
This.
It so frustrates me to see people trash talk on "OOP" in HN and other forums, where I know people never really got to really realize what it could really be about. Just hacky approximations.
I'm sure that functional silver bullet will avoid this cycle some how. /s
As a rails developer - my introduction to Pharo started with this video: https://youtu.be/HOuZyOKa91o If you're not a ruby/rails developer you can still see how awesome it is, but for rubyists specifically it can really be quite mind blowing.
Searched for a tutorial on the website, and found nothing! I don't want to spend 30 minutes to look at some random videos of Virtual Reality in Thames or whatever, or read "Pharo for Rubyists" (I use mostly Python). I just wanted to explore a bit, and maybe if it seemed interesting, tomorrow I would continue exploring it. But now I've deleted Pharo!
Warning to other project maintainers: just show a tutorial, or an hands-on doc, so that newcomers may get a feeling of what it is. This is especially important for relatively unknown projects like this.
Some projects that have done it right:
- https://www.djangoproject.com/start/
- https://go.dev/ (Search for Try Go in the main page)
- https://www.python.org/ (Carrousel showing some aspects of the language)
- https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2021
- others I can't remember now..I used Pharo in my Object Oriented course at the Univeristy (for my CS degree) and I was really surprised for this paradigm. We saw Haskell and Pharo and I was really happy to discover new things from a language point of view. It is hard to say that Java or any other imperative language is OO after seeing Smalltalk/Pharo. About the question if it's used in production, the teacher for that segment of the course was a…
I'd be interested in some of these industry use case stories if you could share something.
I used Pharo in my Object Oriented course at the Univeristy (for my CS degree) and I was really surprised for this paradigm. We saw Haskell and Pharo and I was really happy to discover new things from a language point of view. It is hard to say that Java or any other imperative language is OO after seeing Smalltalk/Pharo. About the question if it's used in production, the teacher for that segment of the course was a…
What book did you use?
I used Pharo in my Object Oriented course at the Univeristy (for my CS degree) and I was really surprised for this paradigm. We saw Haskell and Pharo and I was really happy to discover new things from a language point of view. It is hard to say that Java or any other imperative language is OO after seeing Smalltalk/Pharo. About the question if it's used in production, the teacher for that segment of the course was a…
I'd be interested in some of these industry use case stories if you could share something.
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I switched from Ruby to Smalltalk in 2008 for this specific reason.
Do you actually work in smalltalk or is it just your hobby language of choice?
What do people use Pharo for? Is anyone here using it for a product?