man... the guardian writer who came up with this sub-title:
>> Muharrem İnce pulls out just days from close election race saying alleged sex tape is deepfake
Turkish presidential candidate quits race after release of alleged deepfake
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#12This improves the chance of Erdogan's main opponent winning the election because opposition votes won't be split across multiple candidates. So despite the weird sex tape business, this is a positive event if you think Turkey should move forward from the authoritarianism and incompetent economic management of the Erdogan era.
Other people are saying his voters are more likely to split towards Erdogan. Which is it?
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#13I miss those days here in the US were somekind of sexual impropriety would end someone's political career. Now it seems, at least for one US Political Party, sexual impropriety is a requirement to be considered for higher office.
> I miss those days here in the US were somekind of sexual impropriety would end someone's political career.
Who cares, as long as sex is consensual? Seriously, what’s wrong with having sex? The fact that a political career can be ended because someone made a fake video is much more troubling.
I’m not American, but I am glad we just shrug when we learn about a famous politician’s lover. People are not going to stop fucking. The more we accept that the better, at least then it cannot be used for blackmail or coercion.
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#14Just so the relevance here is clear. He claims it is a deep fake.
Then why quit the race if he thinks it's fake?
He can't win and a vote for him helps Erdogan.
"İnce had a small spike in popularity in the polls in which he peaked at roughly 10% of the overall vote share and more recently dropped down to almost 2% in some polls. While İnce had long seemed unlikely to win, his dwindling vote share was still enough to ensure that the presidential race would go to a runoff, a scenario observers believe could favour Erdoğan."
Re: Turkish presidential candidate quits race after release of alleged deepfake
#15This improves the chance of Erdogan's main opponent winning the election because opposition votes won't be split across multiple candidates. So despite the weird sex tape business, this is a positive event if you think Turkey should move forward from the authoritarianism and incompetent economic management of the Erdogan era.
Other people are saying his voters are more likely to split towards Erdogan. Which is it?
All I know is that the bond market thinks it’s a positive sign, and foreign investors aren’t rooting for Erdogan:
”Investors reacted positively to both the new polls and İnce’s withdrawal from the race, pushing the price of Turkey’s international bonds higher. A US dollar-denominated bond maturing in 2030 was trading on Thursday with a yield of 8.54 per cent, down from about 9.2 per cent at the start of the week.
”Bond yields fall when prices rise. The cost of protecting against a default on Turkish debt also declined, with the spread on five-year credit default swaps falling to 490 basis points from above 550 bps earlier this month, according to Bloomberg data. The spread had risen as high as almost 900 bps last summer.”
(Financial Times)
Re: Turkish presidential candidate quits race after release of alleged deepfake
#16This improves the chance of Erdogan's main opponent winning the election because opposition votes won't be split across multiple candidates. So despite the weird sex tape business, this is a positive event if you think Turkey should move forward from the authoritarianism and incompetent economic management of the Erdogan era.
Other people are saying his voters are more likely to split towards Erdogan. Which is it?
The likeliest answer is that it's too hard to tell - it's too small of a populace (1-2% or less likely) that's hard to reach in an unbiased way to sample properly for a poll (without it getting expensive, I guess). People are mostly speculating based on his attitudes and positions.
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#17Isn't less fragmented votes a worse situation for Erdogan?
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#18> The polling organisation Metropoll predicted late last month that İnce voters would predominantly give their votes to Erdoğan’s AKP, the CHP, with some also going to the far-right Nationalist Movement party and the nationalist IYI (Good party) in the parliamentary race. > The high-profile deployment of deepfake videos has already hit Turkey’s 45-day election cycle, after Erdoğan played an alleged deepfake that clai…
Hilariously, those are the four parties. This sentence claims the voters will predominantly give their votes to one of the other parties.
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#19> The polling organisation Metropoll predicted late last month that İnce voters would predominantly give their votes to Erdoğan’s AKP, the CHP, with some also going to the far-right Nationalist Movement party and the nationalist IYI (Good party) in the parliamentary race. > The high-profile deployment of deepfake videos has already hit Turkey’s 45-day election cycle, after Erdoğan played an alleged deepfake that clai…
Prety hard to be wrong on a "prediction" like that
Re: Turkish presidential candidate quits race after release of alleged deepfake
#20I wonder if it was a deep fake