I’m sorry I’m pretty pro WFH but AirBnB directly benefits from remote workers setting up seasonal offices from vacation destinations. Part of why their business dropped is they went from nearly seasonal residence rentals for digital nomads to mostly vacation bookings.
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#12I've had days where I come to the office, go on a bunch of zoom meetings, and leave. At that point why force in-person attendance??
I have had those. Worse is that everyone has different work from home days and on Thursdays I'm the only person on my team in the office - so I get up early, make the commute into the office, talk to no one face to face, attend meetings remotely (but have to book a meeting room for privacy), then commute back home. It's a giant waste of time.
Don’t complain about that or you will end up with forced telework days. Our office now requires everyone in office TWTh, where so preferred working MWF because of how my work products and some meetings are scheduled. Telework and flexibility are at risk here.
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#13I’m sorry I’m pretty pro WFH but AirBnB directly benefits from remote workers setting up seasonal offices from vacation destinations. Part of why their business dropped is they went from nearly seasonal residence rentals for digital nomads to mostly vacation bookings.
Have you got some references for that? The digital nomads seem like a small enough group to not matter in the grand scheme of things. I'd be extremely surprised if they impacted the Airbnb bottom line at all.
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#14I’m sorry I’m pretty pro WFH but AirBnB directly benefits from remote workers setting up seasonal offices from vacation destinations. Part of why their business dropped is they went from nearly seasonal residence rentals for digital nomads to mostly vacation bookings.
Have you got some references for that? The digital nomads seem like a small enough group to not matter in the grand scheme of things. I'd be extremely surprised if they impacted the Airbnb bottom line at all.
Pretty sure they don't have any references... can't even know that accurately from any public filings. However, I do think there might be some correlation on longer stays (maybe some % of those are digital nomads) from statements from Airbnb leadership where >1 in 5 stays are greater than 28 days [1]. That statement is from 2021, so I'm curious where it might land today.
[1] 2021 - https://news.yahoo.com/airbnb-ceo-brian-chesky-q1-earnings-b...
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#15I've had days where I come to the office, go on a bunch of zoom meetings, and leave. At that point why force in-person attendance??
I have had those. Worse is that everyone has different work from home days and on Thursdays I'm the only person on my team in the office - so I get up early, make the commute into the office, talk to no one face to face, attend meetings remotely (but have to book a meeting room for privacy), then commute back home. It's a giant waste of time.
Our team has specific days we are all in the office (and we all get lunch together that day) which helps. The commute to an empty office does really suck. All the energy and value of being in-person around your peers is lost...
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#16I've had days where I come to the office, go on a bunch of zoom meetings, and leave. At that point why force in-person attendance??
I have had those. Worse is that everyone has different work from home days and on Thursdays I'm the only person on my team in the office - so I get up early, make the commute into the office, talk to no one face to face, attend meetings remotely (but have to book a meeting room for privacy), then commute back home. It's a giant waste of time.
Pointing this out and complaining about it isn't going to make the office disappear its just going to make forced in office days appear.
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#17I’m sorry I’m pretty pro WFH but AirBnB directly benefits from remote workers setting up seasonal offices from vacation destinations. Part of why their business dropped is they went from nearly seasonal residence rentals for digital nomads to mostly vacation bookings.
Have you got some references for that? The digital nomads seem like a small enough group to not matter in the grand scheme of things. I'd be extremely surprised if they impacted the Airbnb bottom line at all.
Well, I use term digital nomad loosely. End of the day if you are 100 or longer periods WFH, options to work from elsewhere which would boost ABNB
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you got some references for that? The digital nomads seem like a small enough group to not matter in the grand scheme of things. I'd be extremely surprised if they impacted the Airbnb bottom line at all.
Pretty sure they don't have any references... can't even know that accurately from any public filings. However, I do think there might be some correlation on longer stays (maybe some % of those are digital nomads) from statements from Airbnb leadership where >1 in 5 stays are greater than 28 days [1]. That statement is from 2021, so I'm curious where it might land today. [1] 2021 - https://news.yahoo.com/airbnb-ceo-b…
Hi literally talked about how before pandemic it was almost all short term rentals; now it’s 1/5 are 30 days or longer.
He talked about it on Prof G Podcast.
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#19I've had days where I come to the office, go on a bunch of zoom meetings, and leave. At that point why force in-person attendance??
I have had those. Worse is that everyone has different work from home days and on Thursdays I'm the only person on my team in the office - so I get up early, make the commute into the office, talk to no one face to face, attend meetings remotely (but have to book a meeting room for privacy), then commute back home. It's a giant waste of time.
RTO is never going to work with my team. More than half of my teammates are remote, and unlikely to move if asked. We’ve already lost one person that way. I used to have a private office, but when I came back they moved me to an open floorplan seating arrangement. I now don’t sit next to anyone I work with who are local, nor do I know what the people next to me even do. No conference rooms are ever available for meetings, and most of the people I collaborate with at this point aren’t in my office anyways and I know exclusively from webex and slack. I usually just take meetings from my car in the parking lot. And damnit, they “renovated” the office but it’s now just a collection of misshapen rooms and white walls.
I can’t believe I get paid as much as I do at such a reputable company and this is the current state of things. I feel like a dog being dragged on a leash by whatever god-emperor exec made this decision. Sorry for the ramble, but I’m sitting in bed procrastinating going to work when I could alternatively just pull out my laptop right now and get things done.
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#20I wouldn’t mind going to the office if everyone else was also in that same office.
I honestly don’t like working remote with people all around the world. Different time zones, people are always out for various holidays, and it’s impossibly hard to coordinate anything significant unless you make sacrifices in your personal life. And everyone is then in that same boat and it sucks equally for everyone involved.