Windows 11 in Svelte • Hacker News Board

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by mcv » Thu, May 11, 2023, 9:07 AM UTC

vermilingua wrote: post #97

deweywsu wrote: post #83

I'm going to sound old here, but why use Svelte? Why yet another one? Why not an established framework like React or Vue? I realize Svelte is compiled but it's oh so close to the others, and its performance is only better in certain corner cases. I ask because of learning exhaustion with the plethora of lookalike languages and frameworks and the constant, unending learning curve associated with all front end developm…

I'm going to sound annoying here, but have you actually used Svelte? The developer experience is night and day with Svelte(kit) and React/Vue. I can have a workable prototype within a couple of hours with Sveltekit, where it would've taken me a couple of days in React/Next.js. Svelte feels like an answer to that unending churn of web frameworks because so much of it is just plain HTML and JS, compared to learning the…

I think this may also be due to the age of the project. Years ago, I could also create a prototype in a few hours in Vue. But as they get older, these frameworks keep getting more complicated. I'm sure Svelte will become like that too in a couple of years.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by mcv » Thu, May 11, 2023, 9:09 AM UTC

wontoncc wrote: post #26

It feels so weird when it's actually snappier than the original UI.

It only has to be snappier than Windows, which isn't hard.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by hakre » Thu, May 11, 2023, 9:32 AM UTC

sgt wrote: post #134

anxion wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Synology's Disk Station Manager recreates a desktop environment. https://demo.synology.com/en-us/dsm

Synology's web desktop is really slick. Is there an open source web desktop environment that comes close? I've seen os.js etc but that looks a bit dated now. The React ones for Win11 are a bit immature still.

> Is there an open source web desktop environment that comes close?

https://www.linuxserver.io/blog/2021-05-05-meet-webtops-a-li...

(note: one may consider this cheating)

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by solumunus » Thu, May 11, 2023, 10:01 AM UTC

deweywsu wrote: post #83

I'm going to sound old here, but why use Svelte? Why yet another one? Why not an established framework like React or Vue? I realize Svelte is compiled but it's oh so close to the others, and its performance is only better in certain corner cases. I ask because of learning exhaustion with the plethora of lookalike languages and frameworks and the constant, unending learning curve associated with all front end developm…

If you've tried all of them and prefer Svelte then why wouldn't you use Svelte?

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by tgv » Thu, May 11, 2023, 10:16 AM UTC

nstart wrote: post #14

Just want to shout out a couple of things. One, it's great to see a hack project here that's been done just for the fun of it. I'm noticing a few comments questioning the "why?" around this. To me at least, it's just a really fun thing to do to hack together something, just because. There doesn't always have to be a rhyme or reason for things like this. Two, it felt like there was a period where sites that would host…

> "why?"

Put it in fullscreen and you can safely leave your computer (document.body.requestFullscreen()). Too bad the background goes black.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by soderfoo » Thu, May 11, 2023, 10:18 AM UTC

supermatt wrote: post #128

45kb of js uncompressed for the app, vs 5x that for google tag manager.. wtf is gtm doing that it needs to be 5x the size of a window manager.

If I remember correctly, a common seo pattern is to use GTM to inject scripts for more analytics instrumentation.

But maybe someone else can offer a more detailed answer, it's not my domain.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by mapcars » Thu, May 11, 2023, 10:35 AM UTC

splittydev wrote: post #2

Looks great, but not very realistic. The real Win11 start menu doesn't open immediately, it glitches in various ways for 3-4 times before actually working. Realism 7/10

Exactly my thoughts, too fast to seem real

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by yashash » Thu, May 11, 2023, 10:39 AM UTC

ishanjain28 wrote: post #156

yashash wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you won't believe how many times people have told me that & have become fascinated by this thing alone :)

If at all possible, The links in edge should open in a tab in edge. That'll be awesome to have

noted

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by RamblingCTO » Thu, May 11, 2023, 10:44 AM UTC

royal_ts wrote: post #135

RamblingCTO wrote: post #67

You know, if you are looking for a job, that's what I love to see. Curiosity, passion, and just pure software craftsmanship. Fuck CVs, gimme this.

Sure I agree that this is far more accurate of what one can do but you can't expect that from people working, managing their day to day life, family and so on. It's one thing we don't expect in other industries in that way

I understand that! It would be optimal, but life happens. That being said, I still manage to code on the side somehow. But I'm single and don't have kids, so that's probably why. I would be sad to lose that.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by badpun » Thu, May 11, 2023, 10:49 AM UTC

Dalewyn wrote: post #119

dataflow wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like this part: > We have to hope that enough of the users whose systems are crashing realize that it’s due to the “shell enhancement” program (rather than blaming Windows itself, which is the more likely case) I would 100% blame Windows (or Microsoft, rather) for making the shell so awful that people have to resort to these tactics. You can't cripple the steering wheel on a car and then blame people for not findin…

This part too: >Unfortunately, these patchers also cause Windows customer satisfaction numbers to plunge every time an update goes out, I've refused/blocked updates for as long as I remember since long before Explorer patchers were a thing, because updates break my shit and waste my fucking time. I've had more of my time and nerves wasted by updates breaking my shit than "all the bad guys trying to take advantage of…

Ah I miss the youth. Now that my PC holds passwords to all of my accumulated wealth, even a tiny risk of being owned is not something that I’ll live with, if it can be prevented.