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Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Post by herbst »

Majestic121 wrote: post #676
herbst wrote: post #670

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It's not only about the markup imo. I share netflix and all with my girlfriend in the same household. But for YouTube we both need our own premium because of the weird limits. More than that I would likely need 2 for me alone because of the limits. Even more because I organized my abos in different accounts. I would buy one, but I won't buy 3. And I won't buy even 1 when I still have ads every so often.

What weird limits ? What ads ? I'm sharing the yt premium with my whole family with no issues, and the only ads I see are the sponsoring from content creator directly in the video, but nothing from google

Only one device being able to hear music at once? Only 2 or so being able to watch movies at once? YouTube app and browser on the same device already being 2 devices. And yes with ads I mean sponsored ad blocks from the creators. Before I had these blocked I unsubbed more people than I subbed because of minute long VPN ads

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Post by blibble »

knorker wrote: post #658
lofaszvanitt wrote: post #654

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The problem with YT is: - I start the video, an ad is shown within 30 secs. - I fast forward a few minutes, the SAME ad is shown again. - I jump to anywhere on the timeline, the SAME ad is shown again. At least show me something that is relevant, like facebook does. The ads there reflect what I usually look for. On YT, none of the ads are relevant to me, ever. It's just ridiculous.

At least for YT there's a solution: YT Premium. Sure, as other comments have said, it doesn't scale to all websites, but youtube isn't just any website.

this is only a short term solution as once enough people have YT premium they'll start adding ads in there too

just like cable tv

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Post by herbst »

michaelscott wrote: post #680
herbst wrote: post #666

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At least for YT there's a solution: YT Vanced Or other YouTube clients with ads disabled :) There is even a SmartTV YouTube App that works like a charm. It even skips as blocks in the video itself. Only casting then uses the original app with ads. Edit:// as long as I would need 2 premium accounts for all my active devices I don't accept that as a real solution

Vanced has essentially been disabled recently, unable to play anything. I don't know if YouTube is going on a murdering spree of everything that threatens ads on the platform.

On mobile it's annoying yes, but there is always a working solution around. On TV however the app "SmartTubeNext" seems to update faster than YouTube patches. (Afaik there are multiple Vanced clones like revanced in case you are using the original)

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Post by comprev »

blibble wrote: post #682
knorker wrote: post #658

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least for YT there's a solution: YT Premium. Sure, as other comments have said, it doesn't scale to all websites, but youtube isn't just any website.

this is only a short term solution as once enough people have YT premium they'll start adding ads in there too just like cable tv

And more recently Netflix for their ad-supported lowest tier. Not sure if it has been rolled out yet though.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Post by Philip-J-Fry »

lofaszvanitt wrote: post #654
freehorse wrote: post #615

It is not just about youtube. The whole internet is bloated with ads right now, and the vast majority of them quite the opposite of discrete. I just cannot browse the internet without adblocker, it is too slow, but more importantly too distracting. I could count the times that I have found an internet ad interesting in my lifetime using half the fingers of one hand. Personalised or not, the vast majority is useless,…

The problem with YT is: - I start the video, an ad is shown within 30 secs. - I fast forward a few minutes, the SAME ad is shown again. - I jump to anywhere on the timeline, the SAME ad is shown again. At least show me something that is relevant, like facebook does. The ads there reflect what I usually look for. On YT, none of the ads are relevant to me, ever. It's just ridiculous.

Yeah, I think Facebook has the better algorithms for knowing what I'm interested in.

I use Instagram more than Facebook but quite a few times I've seen ads for things that have caught my attention. I've even bought something because of one.

I've never bought anything by looking at a Google ad. They are almost always something I know about already. What good is an ad for something I know about?

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Post by idle_zealot »

somat wrote: post #677
redbell wrote: post #653

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I totally agree on this! Some websites just keep throwing an enormous number of ads into your face to the the extent you start losing consciousness why you came here in the first place. On computer, you still able to use an AdBlock but on mobile, I suffer terribly, not only because I could not disable ads but because on some sites while you are reading an article a random ad video that took about half of the screen k…

if on android u-block origin works well on firefox. If ios you are probably stranded, Hopefully apple allows it's users to block some ads. That is if they don't become an advertising company.

On iOS uBO seems to work in Orion. Losing tab syncing is a shame though.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Post by 76SlashDolphin »

somat wrote: post #677
redbell wrote: post #653

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally agree on this! Some websites just keep throwing an enormous number of ads into your face to the the extent you start losing consciousness why you came here in the first place. On computer, you still able to use an AdBlock but on mobile, I suffer terribly, not only because I could not disable ads but because on some sites while you are reading an article a random ad video that took about half of the screen k…

if on android u-block origin works well on firefox. If ios you are probably stranded, Hopefully apple allows it's users to block some ads. That is if they don't become an advertising company.

On iOS you can install AdGuard in Safari (or pay for a few of the other ad-blocker extensions) or install Brave which has an ad-blocker built-in. Both work well in my experience.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Post by red_admiral »

freehorse wrote: post #615

It is not just about youtube. The whole internet is bloated with ads right now, and the vast majority of them quite the opposite of discrete. I just cannot browse the internet without adblocker, it is too slow, but more importantly too distracting. I could count the times that I have found an internet ad interesting in my lifetime using half the fingers of one hand. Personalised or not, the vast majority is useless,…

Ad-blocking also gives you similar if not more extra security to anti-virus software, with fewer downsides (faster not slower). I'm afraid the ad ecosystem is so big that occasionally, threats slip through.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Post by MandieD »

rixrax wrote: post #678
lofaszvanitt wrote: post #654

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The problem with YT is: - I start the video, an ad is shown within 30 secs. - I fast forward a few minutes, the SAME ad is shown again. - I jump to anywhere on the timeline, the SAME ad is shown again. At least show me something that is relevant, like facebook does. The ads there reflect what I usually look for. On YT, none of the ads are relevant to me, ever. It's just ridiculous.

- Ads crank up the volume to 11. We were watching Eurovision singing contest the other day from YT and my gawd was that annoying. Adds in the middle of every song, volume being cranked up for the adds, and as a icing on the cake, probably due to bug somewhere, the playback went to pause after each ad (iPhone airplaying to AppleTV).

That’s what TV (first, broadcast, and then, cable) was like in the 80s and 90s, and was a small part of why we jumped at internet video.

For TV, there were devices that promised to automatically lower the volume when commercials came on - I don’t remember how they were supposed to work.

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