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> Read the following code as if it were a documentation page: If I read this as a documentation page, this makes me scared: `Order::create($validated + ['status' => 'pending']);` What does it mean to add an array to something?
Order::create([...$validated, 'status' => 'pending']);
As a fullstack developer who has worked many, many years in the javascript hellhole, I mean ecosystem, as well as the python ecosystem and .NET; coming back to PHP the last 2 years, working essentially in Laravel and the like - I couldn't approve more of this message. Seriously, PHP is the grand father that will drive you to class and you'll never be late, the car will never smell and everything will always just be f…
This 100%. It's actually a bit of a red flag to me these days if a developer turns up their nose at PHP. The language has matured a lot and building stuff with it is simple, cheap, straightforward and fast. If someone's still hating on PHP in 2023 it makes me wonder if they've been focused on more exotic technology because they were looking to pad their resume with more expensive skills, build science projects for th…
What's that George W Bush line, Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again. But we're not talking about getting fooled just once, or twice, we're talking about eight times.
Starting with Laravel support and launching soon
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I agree, the main problem with PHP in my experience so far has been that it's very memory-hungry and slow (even PHP7/8), especially when coupled with frameworks/ORM magic. I remember after spending some time with Go, I got used to being able to process tens of thousands objects in memory in milliseconds. When I proposed to do the same in PHP, during architecture review, PHP devs thought I'm out of my mind because tha…
That 300ms initialization time sounds like a cache-free execution (aka dev mode). I have symfony projects light on ORM usage (I dislike Doctrine from the bottom of my hearth, but what can you do it's the blessed symfony ORM) and after a cache warmup it handles requests under 100ms. Yes, the frameworks have obscene (java-like) class dependencies that build up during initialization (I'd prefer if there'd be a lighter f…
They’re not wrong… PHP7+ is blazing fast, has a huge library, gradual typing support, etc. If starting a new project in the space where they all “compete”, I would choose PHP7 or PHP8 with Laravel or Symfony (or maybe even WordPress) over Rails, Django and probably over NodeJS.
You lost me at WordPress haha... Ive a lot of love for WP, but I don't really get the appeal of extending it past blogging... if you're doing anything more complicated it's pretty trivial to implement blogging functions in your site.
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This 100%. It's actually a bit of a red flag to me these days if a developer turns up their nose at PHP. The language has matured a lot and building stuff with it is simple, cheap, straightforward and fast. If someone's still hating on PHP in 2023 it makes me wonder if they've been focused on more exotic technology because they were looking to pad their resume with more expensive skills, build science projects for th…
To be blunt, you are a terrible hiring manager if your red flag is “they haven’t got an up-to-date opinion about the shitty-history language that I’m personally into”. This just sounds like PHP Stockholm syndrome with extra steps.
For those who know PHP, this code is full of singletons masquerading as static classes (which Laravel incorrectly calls "Facades") which mean no isolation and clear flow of dependencies in your code. In a nutshell, every line of code you write this way comes loaded with a pound of irreducible, unfixable tech debt. Enjoy.
> It can handle more than 500,000 orders per month Hilarious because other languages are capable of that per minute not per month
As a fullstack developer who has worked many, many years in the javascript hellhole, I mean ecosystem, as well as the python ecosystem and .NET; coming back to PHP the last 2 years, working essentially in Laravel and the like - I couldn't approve more of this message. Seriously, PHP is the grand father that will drive you to class and you'll never be late, the car will never smell and everything will always just be f…
Personally, I do like the way the standard library is - almost all cases of where people whine about it being inconsistent, it is a consequence of the PHP standard library and many of its extensions being extremely thin wrappers around libc and C/C++ libraries in general.
That, in turn, makes it often possible to just take straight C library example code, copy it into a PHP file, add a $ in front of all variables, and have it magically work.
(IMHO, it's no surprise that the whiners tend to be younger programmers who have grown up with Java in their university education - us older "neckbeards" are so used to the C world that its conventions are second nature for us)