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Windows 11 in Svelte

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Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by zbendefy »

movedx wrote: post #32
altano wrote: post #24

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I still can't believe how buggy the start menu has been since Windows 8, released TEN YEARS ago.

The START MENU? TEN YEARS? My friend, how about simple file management? They've been at that for DECADES and still can't get it right? "Oh, you dragged something over the top of a network drive in Explorer, let me waste the next 3-5 minutes trying to connect to that drive for you". Or how about this: "Oh you plugged in a USB drive that was setup as a live CD? Let me crash for a second and mash your MBR to bits". How…

Agreed but if talking about default file managers, its even worse on ubuntu. Nautilus is imo very bad compared to win file manager (hitting a key starts a global search in that folder, it crashes very often etc.). Does anyone know if they plan anything with it?

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by dgellow »

nstart wrote: post #14

Just want to shout out a couple of things. One, it's great to see a hack project here that's been done just for the fun of it. I'm noticing a few comments questioning the "why?" around this. To me at least, it's just a really fun thing to do to hack together something, just because. There doesn't always have to be a rhyme or reason for things like this. Two, it felt like there was a period where sites that would host…

I’ve seen some people use Glitch for experimental web projects.

https://glitch.com/

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by v-yadli »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #65
hu3 wrote: post #44

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I use https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher to fix start menu and taskbar. Can't imagine using Windows without it.

Fuck me, this sounds good. What's the downside?

It failed once recently after an system update. Blank desktop with no shell. Had to ctrl-shift-esc and manually download latest `ep_setup.exe` and run it to get the desktop back. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20230324-00/?p=10... Raymond did not point out which "desktop enhancement software" it was but I suspect this is it.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by hammyhavoc »

hu3 wrote: post #70
hammyhavoc wrote: post #65

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Fuck me, this sounds good. What's the downside?

For me, once a day it crashes Explorer.exe which promptly restarts by itself and life carries on without harm. Takes one or two seconds to rebuild the taskbar when it happens and it's fun to watch. No data is lost. No program closes. It just restarts the taskbar process.

I get this with unmodified W11 in the OOBE on the latest update, so it'd be SNAFU!

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by dataflow »

v-yadli wrote: post #73
hammyhavoc wrote: post #65

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Fuck me, this sounds good. What's the downside?

It failed once recently after an system update. Blank desktop with no shell. Had to ctrl-shift-esc and manually download latest `ep_setup.exe` and run it to get the desktop back. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20230324-00/?p=10... Raymond did not point out which "desktop enhancement software" it was but I suspect this is it.

I like this part:

> We have to hope that enough of the users whose systems are crashing realize that it’s due to the “shell enhancement” program (rather than blaming Windows itself, which is the more likely case)

I would 100% blame Windows (or Microsoft, rather) for making the shell so awful that people have to resort to these tactics.

You can't cripple the steering wheel on a car and then blame people for not finding perfect aftermarket substitutes.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by pjmlp »

altano wrote: post #24
splittydev wrote: post #2

Looks great, but not very realistic. The real Win11 start menu doesn't open immediately, it glitches in various ways for 3-4 times before actually working. Realism 7/10

I still can't believe how buggy the start menu has been since Windows 8, released TEN YEARS ago.

If you would have gone through the WinRT evolution since its introduction on Windows 8, you would believe.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by hammyhavoc »

dataflow wrote: post #75
v-yadli wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It failed once recently after an system update. Blank desktop with no shell. Had to ctrl-shift-esc and manually download latest `ep_setup.exe` and run it to get the desktop back. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20230324-00/?p=10... Raymond did not point out which "desktop enhancement software" it was but I suspect this is it.

I like this part: > We have to hope that enough of the users whose systems are crashing realize that it’s due to the “shell enhancement” program (rather than blaming Windows itself, which is the more likely case) I would 100% blame Windows (or Microsoft, rather) for making the shell so awful that people have to resort to these tactics. You can't cripple the steering wheel on a car and then blame people for not findin…

100% this. That these projects exist whatsoever speaks volumes about the grim state of Windows UX.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by hoseja »

v-yadli wrote: post #73
hammyhavoc wrote: post #65

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Fuck me, this sounds good. What's the downside?

It failed once recently after an system update. Blank desktop with no shell. Had to ctrl-shift-esc and manually download latest `ep_setup.exe` and run it to get the desktop back. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20230324-00/?p=10... Raymond did not point out which "desktop enhancement software" it was but I suspect this is it.

He's so damn smug about breaking the user patch of their terrible mess of explorer, too.
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