Does anyone have experience choosing from the many many options of OTP providers to serve original content? Every time I look into it, the sheer gamut of companies offering these services is overwhelming, seems impossible to differentiate and make an informed decision.
YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
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#562It seems like youtube is ripe to be disrupted by someone. Video hosting isn't as hard as it once was, ads are invasive, and yt is just the middleman not the content creators.
Video hosting is extremely expensive. Look at the pricing of anyone who provides such base services ( https://www.cloudflare.com/en-in/products/cloudflare-stream/ ) or alternate providers like Vimeo ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28547578 ).
Live streaming is very different than recorded video - but yes its relatively expensive.
But that is very different from early youtube days where there basically wasn't off the shelf solution. That is a huge difference.
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#563I hope this leads to a viable competitor to Youtube. Youtube being the de-facto video host for medium length content has pretty noticeable effects on how content is created to tailor to Youtube's algorithms and users. I would love to see a BitTorrent-style solution to video hosting. If your video is popular, there's more seeders, but also you can just seed it yourself. Then you can have an ecosystem where there's dif…
That’s what PeerTube does. It’s based on WebTorrent.
Can a creator of monetize videos on peertube?
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#564Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you weren’t a paying customer, refuse to become a paying customer, and refuse to watch the ads, they don’t gain anything by having you as a user. It only costs them to retain you. If doing something as simple as asking you to hold up your end of the deal of using their website (letting ads load for the ad-supported content) is too much to ask but paying for the website is also too much to ask, you have to be hones…
Ehh the problem with this is that I don't block YT ads (I watch on a tablet), but I am still constantly bombarded (and I mean that) with full-page click-through ads, banners and in-feed blocks trying to get me to buy Premium. YouTube, I'm watching your pre-roll and mid-roll ads like you want me to, so leave me the fuck alone with this premium shit, I'm not interested. So it's not an "either-or" scenario.. If you are…
They're advertising their own product on their own platform. What's wrong with that?
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#565Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think you're taking everything into consideration here. For one it's not only creators who make money. You also have to pay for hosting/development as well as Google's own profit. So the cost to buy ads is clearly greater than $2 per 1000. I just looked and apparently the cost to buy 1000 views is about $20. So your off by 1000% yourself. At that rate premium is priced equivalent to 600 views a month or 20 a…
I already accounted for all of those factors. The $2 per 1000 views was the estimated revenue from a video with 10 million views. That presumably accounts for the number of ads delivered over the average watch time of the video. The creator averages $2 per 1000 views which is their 55% cut of the ad revenue [1]. That averages out to around $4 per 1000 views in ad revenue paid to Youtube of which Youtube keeps 45% whi…
In the US the avg cost of 1000 views to the advertiser is probably $15+. (I’ve spent millions(?) on YT ads)
You can’t average global numbers like that when the average in Indonesia is possibly sub a dollar.
So the premium YouTube subscription might just cost around double what is “fair”
Except those who are most likely to buy it are likely power users who watch twice as many videos.
Which would make the price perfectly fair.
So I’m not sure there’s really a problem here.
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#566YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…
No, it perfectly showcases that people do not want to pay 1000% more money for the privilege of paying a monthly subscription. Youtube Premium costs $12/month [1]. Ads average something like $2 per 1000 views to the creators (in some of the most common categories) [2]. Youtube takes a ~45% cut, so Youtube makes ~$4 per 1000 views from ads. So, to reach $12/month, you would need to average 3000 views per month. At a a…
You also get YouTube Music, which is not as great as Spotify, but nonetheless worth something.
In fact, that’s the primary reason everyone I know who has YouTube Premium subscribes: music steaming + ad-free YouTube.
That needs to be factored into your calculation, no?
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#567YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…
For me, text is fine. I'm a minority but I just avoid videos altogether.
Paying youtube for an infinite catalogue of shit? No thanks. And the rare gems that do interest me are invariably... overly expanded and filled with sponsor bullshit, so, ads.
Paying for YT premium to give Google their pound of flesh, only to be stuck in same horrorshow of well-meaning content creators having to whore themselves out to their sponsors... To me that means that the only winning move is not to play.
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#568YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…
"YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases)." If this is true, and I have long believed it is, then the following, from the article, is a lie: "It looks like you may be using an ad blocker. Ads allow YouTube to stay free for bil…
Google might gain my favour if they become human again. Google is literally the most robotic company out there. There is so much they could do to make YT a better experience. But it suffers from developeritis, where it’s just a fancy tech stack (bravo!) but it wasn’t build for actual humans.
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#569If it helps, I have a tool for downloading, written in Go: http://github.com/4cq2/mech
Why not just use the very widely used yt-dlp?
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