What I really love is the bonuses that say that if you leave in less than 3 years, you have to pay them back, plus the taxes the company paid on them. If you leave early you're actually paying the company to leave.
Microsoft Freezes Salaries for 2023
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#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really. If the CEO was in charge of the direction of the company, and that direction was so bad that they have to make major layoffs and cuts, then they shouldn't be rewarded for this. This isn't a fucking game. These are human lives. Microsoft laid off 10,000 humans [1] because their idiotic CEO decided it would be a really good idea to overhire like crazy in 2021 and 2022. This was the wrong decision and now th…
I agree wholeheartedly with every point you make, except this: > This isn't a fucking game That is *exactly* what it is to these people, and I don't doubt that they make use of game theory to make some of these decisions. Until the rules of the game change, nothing will.
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#383Yet another attempt at an industry-wide attempt to limit and drive down salaries. Keep doing it. What goes down, goes up. And we won't forget. You need us more than we need you.
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#384Man oh man. Microsoft really just has no interest in keeping motivated and talented people around. The brain drain is going to ramp up even more from here If you're still at MSFT: do yourself a favor and jump ship. It's a good job, but there are even better jobs out there. Just tell the recruiter when you get your new job offer that you've been drinking $5,000 a year's worth of free soda, and you'll need them to matc…
I was at amazon and left because the work there sucks. They’re not interested in making and shipping things; it’s just become a giant cesspool of middle managers creating process and justifying their existence.
Big companies suck. Take your brains to a smaller outfit and disrupt.
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#385With the rate of inflation and interest rates going up, salaried workers need a cost of living adjustment at the very least, even if we forget about a bonus or a big pay hike. This decision is unethical to full-time employees seeing the tidy profit they made. It's a clear signal to the employees not to expect any practical reward for hard work, what a great way to motivate people. This is yet another large and powerf…
> This decision is unethical to full-time employees seeing the tidy profit they made. Profit itself is unethical.
Based on what ideology? It's polite to at least state your premises
Re: Microsoft Freezes Salaries for 2023
#386With the rate of inflation and interest rates going up, salaried workers need a cost of living adjustment at the very least, even if we forget about a bonus or a big pay hike. This decision is unethical to full-time employees seeing the tidy profit they made. It's a clear signal to the employees not to expect any practical reward for hard work, what a great way to motivate people. This is yet another large and powerf…
> This decision is unethical to full-time employees seeing the tidy profit they made. Profit itself is unethical.
Alright, I’ll bite. How is profit unethical? If I sell my neighbour something and make a profit, are we not both better off?
Re: Microsoft Freezes Salaries for 2023
#387With the rate of inflation and interest rates going up, salaried workers need a cost of living adjustment at the very least, even if we forget about a bonus or a big pay hike. This decision is unethical to full-time employees seeing the tidy profit they made. It's a clear signal to the employees not to expect any practical reward for hard work, what a great way to motivate people. This is yet another large and powerf…
> This decision is unethical to full-time employees seeing the tidy profit they made. Profit itself is unethical.
> Profit itself is unethical.
It's a very strange thing to claim that profit is unethical. In tech companies, profit is an indication that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts — i.e. so much wealth has been created that there's an excess of it.
Re: Microsoft Freezes Salaries for 2023
#388With the rate of inflation and interest rates going up, salaried workers need a cost of living adjustment at the very least, even if we forget about a bonus or a big pay hike. This decision is unethical to full-time employees seeing the tidy profit they made. It's a clear signal to the employees not to expect any practical reward for hard work, what a great way to motivate people. This is yet another large and powerf…
> It's a clear signal to the employees not to expect any practical reward for hard work, what a great way to motivate people.
Do companies care? This signal has been the same for about a decade now. It seemingly does not matter if employees are motivated or not. There is profit anyway.
Winning strategy as an employee is to be a mediocre employee at multiple full time remote jobs.
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#390With the rate of inflation and interest rates going up, salaried workers need a cost of living adjustment at the very least, even if we forget about a bonus or a big pay hike. This decision is unethical to full-time employees seeing the tidy profit they made. It's a clear signal to the employees not to expect any practical reward for hard work, what a great way to motivate people. This is yet another large and powerf…
This is happening everywhere. The place where I work a very large, rich University gave out two 3% raises since COVID started and at one point temporarily cut everyone's salary by 5%. The only way to make more was to get a promotion or apply for a role on another team.