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Geektools whois gateway has shut down after a 25-year run

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Re: Geektools whois gateway has shut down after a 25-year run

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Public who's details have become absurd. Register any domain and choose not to use domain privacy. Your inbox will fill up over the next hour with people wanting to sell you seo services or a new WordPress installation. I don't mean five or five or six spam emails, I mean you could see over a hundred umin the first hour . Such mailboxes are sure to become unusable .

If you register in a tld which doesn’t allow privacy (.net or .us? Forget which) everything leaks. Kiss goodbye to your phone number. I accidentally did this and got 50 calls within the first 8 hrs. It was insane.

It was .us, operated by GoDaddy ;)

Not surprised on this, especially on the GoDaddy part. Although .uk also has no-proxies rule, at least Nominet themselves don't reveal your details if you're an individual even before GDPR (the idea being that if you're a company you have enough money to handle public requests).

Re: Geektools whois gateway has shut down after a 25-year run

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sudo apt-get install whois whois google.com

Worth pointing out that WHOIS is sunsetting in January 2025 and that RDAP (already live) is the replacement.

Is this what you mean by WHOIS sunsetting? Do you have any more/other details?

https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/icann-board-approves-...

Re: Geektools whois gateway has shut down after a 25-year run

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Public who's details have become absurd. Register any domain and choose not to use domain privacy. Your inbox will fill up over the next hour with people wanting to sell you seo services or a new WordPress installation. I don't mean five or five or six spam emails, I mean you could see over a hundred umin the first hour . Such mailboxes are sure to become unusable .

That’s exactly why I’ve used an “admin@“ address for decades now on email registrations. It has a filter that will then redirect anything from the registrar’s domain and junk anything else.

sweet!

hoping your registrar does indeed send his 'very important mail' from that domain .

Re: Geektools whois gateway has shut down after a 25-year run

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Public who's details have become absurd. Register any domain and choose not to use domain privacy. Your inbox will fill up over the next hour with people wanting to sell you seo services or a new WordPress installation. I don't mean five or five or six spam emails, I mean you could see over a hundred umin the first hour . Such mailboxes are sure to become unusable .

Don’t forget your physical mailbox too

I've received a few official-looking fake renewal notices over the years.

Re: Geektools whois gateway has shut down after a 25-year run

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Public who's details have become absurd. Register any domain and choose not to use domain privacy. Your inbox will fill up over the next hour with people wanting to sell you seo services or a new WordPress installation. I don't mean five or five or six spam emails, I mean you could see over a hundred umin the first hour . Such mailboxes are sure to become unusable .

That’s exactly why I’ve used an “admin@“ address for decades now on email registrations. It has a filter that will then redirect anything from the registrar’s domain and junk anything else.

That's fun and I like the idea, until the ICANN decides you need to verify your domain or it'll be terminated within two weeks. Who knows what email sending service or domain they'll decide to use. (OVH, for instance, sent me this not only from a different domain, but from a different country TLD altogether than previous emails from them.)

Do you also have a dedicated phone number for your registrar to call? And home address? The whole thing is a bit iffy, I'd much rather that my personal information remains with the party that can relay any relevant queries.

Another problem with using an inbox @ your domain is that, when there's a problem with your domain... good luck receiving that email. I have two accounts with the registrar for different domains and they point to each other. Not great, perhaps I should open a hotmail for this that relays copies of any emails so I still get the notifications during normal times, but it's something.

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Also, GDPR has put potential legal liability pressure on registrars and most have dropped having any useful WHOIS information.

Public who's details have become absurd. Register any domain and choose not to use domain privacy. Your inbox will fill up over the next hour with people wanting to sell you seo services or a new WordPress installation. I don't mean five or five or six spam emails, I mean you could see over a hundred umin the first hour . Such mailboxes are sure to become unusable .

Choose to use domain privacy and you will receive the same spam but with your email proxied/obfuscated. Happened to me last week.

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Public who's details have become absurd. Register any domain and choose not to use domain privacy. Your inbox will fill up over the next hour with people wanting to sell you seo services or a new WordPress installation. I don't mean five or five or six spam emails, I mean you could see over a hundred umin the first hour . Such mailboxes are sure to become unusable .

Choose to use domain privacy and you will receive the same spam but with your email proxied/obfuscated. Happened to me last week.

I haven’t experienced this with Google domains or Cloudflare.

Re: Geektools whois gateway has shut down after a 25-year run

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The only reason why WHOIS actually needed to stick around for so long is because of thin registries (.com and .net are examples) where the registrar manages the contact information for the domain rather than the registry.

When you do a domain transfer, the registrars involved are required to get confirmation of the transfer, which means that the gaining registrar needs a way to query the contact information for the domain. With thick registries, all the gaining registrar needs to query this is the EPP key (AKA the transfer code, transfer key, authinfo, &c.) and the domain name, and then they have read-only access to the domain object and any contact object associated with the domain in question. With thin registries, there's no such thing, so the only way to implement ICANN's Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy is to query WHOIS. Up until ICANN finally forced a standard format on gTLD WHOIS responses, this was a nightmare as all too many registries would go out of their way to make it difficult to get any information out of WHOIS.

I'm glad to see WHOIS starting to die for domain names and be replaced with RDAP.

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