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YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
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Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#512This has the potential to help me quit Youtube altogether. The amount of time I waste on there is embarrassing. But I will never disable my ad blocker, and I won't pay money to mindlessly waste time scrolling through videos.
This will save them whatever it costs to serve me videos, and I will spend my life more productively. Win - Win.
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#513Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have no problem paying for services, even for premium tiers when free tier is available. > I don't trust YouTube Premium enough to even try it. These two statements seem to be mutually incompatible unless you're trying to argue that a premium tier doesn't really exist unless you can write the terms of service and audit the company providing it. It's also somewhat hard to follow the logic here: if you don't trust…
Even if I paid for YT premium, the money wouldn't go to the YT creator people I support. It's really that simple. I can no longer trust PayPal, and Patreon doesn't accept my local credit card so that goes down the drain too. They already harvest my data. I refuse to pay them money to exploit me further.
What data do they harvest and what do they do with it?
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#514YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…
No, it perfectly showcases that people do not want to pay 1000% more money for the privilege of paying a monthly subscription.
Youtube Premium costs $12/month [1]. Ads average something like $2 per 1000 views to the creators (in some of the most common categories) [2]. Youtube takes a ~45% cut, so Youtube makes ~$4 per 1000 views from ads. So, to reach $12/month, you would need to average 3000 views per month. At a average of 30 days per month, you would need to consume on average 100(!) videos a day for Youtube to come out behind.
Wikipedia says Youtube made ~$28.8B in 2021 and had ~2.5B MAU as of the beginning of 2022. So, the average MAU only brings in ~$10/year. You need to average over 10x the number of views as the average MAU for Youtube Premium to come out behind for Youtube.
The actual alternative is that you charge a comparable price to the advertising revenue instead of complaining that it does not work because your consumers are not dumb enough to pay a 1000% markup.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/premium
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#515YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…
I'd disable my adblocker and revanced youtube if they stopped randomly terminating channels unreasonably and gave them proper means to contest wrongful terminations. If Google respects the people making a living off of them (mainly off superchats and memberships, not ads) so little, they don't deserve my respect either.
I'll just keep up with the inevitable cat and mouse game with adblockers.
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#516Earlier quoted context omitted.
YouTube is by no means the primary reason I run my ad blocker. That it works on YouTube is a side bonus, mostly useful if I need to watch something in an incognito window or while I'm signed into my work account. I pay for Premium on my main account mostly to support the creators. (The good ones tend to do the Patreon thing, and I much prefer to chip in there given the choice, but not everyone on YT does that.)
Fully agree with you there. I can't use the internet without an ad blocker.
I hate ads and use an ad blocker, but I also pay for ad removal on any site I use regularly that offers the option (which includes YouTube).
This seems like a reasonable balance between having the internet be usable while also supporting the services I use.
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#517I hope this leads to a viable competitor to Youtube. Youtube being the de-facto video host for medium length content has pretty noticeable effects on how content is created to tailor to Youtube's algorithms and users. I would love to see a BitTorrent-style solution to video hosting. If your video is popular, there's more seeders, but also you can just seed it yourself. Then you can have an ecosystem where there's dif…
That’s what PeerTube does. It’s based on WebTorrent.
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#518Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've said it before and I've said it again: ad-based content and pay content are incompatible business models. YouTube Premium fails because the content isn't worth paying for. The content is not worth paying for because it's been designed from the ground up to sell ads . When a website designed to sell ads fails to sell content, that's not evidence that selling content doesn't work, it's evidence that selling conten…
I couldn't disagree more. The majority of my usage, and the usage of _many_ others based on the view count for DIY stuff, is watching people fix or build stuff. Usually because I'm in the middle of a project trying to figure out how to do something, or because I'm thinking about a project and wanting to get an idea of how difficult it'll be. Youtube University basically. I pay for premium because it saves so much tim…
The problem with this logic is whether or not your usage mirrors sustainable usage if you're selling content - and I'd argue it doesn't.
The useful uses of YouTube are basically a side-effect of the real usage which is "get eyeballs on the screen to watch the screen more" - which is what you want when you sell ads, whereas you kind of want the opposite when you sell subscriptions - subscribed users who use the service as little as possible are cost efficient users.
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#519> “We're running a small experiment globally”
They sure do like that word https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/104325801/testing-...
Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers
#520I mean if YouTube wants to block ad blockers, that's unfortunate, but I also understand the motivation. But here's the rub. Youtube premium is still not available globally. I had a weird workaround that I used a long time ago through google play but when my current credit card expires, I won't be able to use that method again and all the benefits of my membership will go away. That really sucks because I actually enj…
> don't understand how a giant company like Google hasn't figured out global availability of a service like this Running a user-generated content business has become exponentially more complicated in the last decade. Compliance and moderation is hard. It's also difficult to scale across jurisdictions.
But the content is present globally. We are talking about a subscription to block ads. If it’s to do with some YouTube original content, they can not distribute it here for all I care. I’ve seen that content and it’s awful.
If it’s about tax collection, then that’s again weird because google will take money for any other service. I genuinely don’t understand it and I can’t find a single good explanation out there for it either.
Sorry if that comes across as aggressive. I promise that it’s entirely just exasperation at this point :(