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Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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Seriously, lol. Just pay the 25 dollars or enable the ads. Walk away when there’s an ad or switch tabs

Or block them. It's your computer and cpu cycles.

Fair enough. It's YouTube's servers and GPU cycles and that's why they're blocking you.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#362

YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…

Google does cache YouTube content in ISP data centers using GGC (Google Global Cache) servers. Their docs says the majority of GGC traffic is cacheable YouTube content.

https://support.google.com/interconnect/answer/9058809?hl=en

https://support.google.com/interconnect/answer/7658599?hl=en

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#364

So let’s get talking about ways to move away from YouTube. Are there any surviving competitors? Any tech tricks we can use to beat them? I won’t pay them and I won’t watch their ads.

the closest alternative to Youtube I have seen is Odysee (formerly known as LBRY) https://odysee.com/

it reminds me of the old youtube experience. I like that their ads are images and banners rather than video interruptions. the content and viewerbase are a bit limited at the moment but that can easily change.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#365

LPT: Use a Syrian VPN and Google won't advertise to you in any of their products (due to sanctions). Only use this for read-only content (YouTube, Search et al).

I hope you realise Syrian VPNs do not exist

He does have an idea. Are there any VPNs that let you acquire an Iranian IP? Iran is not even a geotargeting option in Google ads because of all the sanctions. I've always wondered what Google search results looked like from inside the country? Pure and ad free?

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#366
I am kind of on the fence about the content on YouTube being worth paying for but the website makes it so difficult to find the content that I am actually interested in seeing that it makes the whole experience absolutely not worth it to me to pay for.

Faced with blocked videos I would either figure out a way around or do something else with my time. No way I'm disabling my ad blocker.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#367
Man, the amount of misunderstanding present in the comments here is astonishing.

1. YT doesn't decide how many ads to show. The creator of the video gets to choose exactly how many ads are shown and when and where they are shown.

If you see too many ads on your videos, get pissed off at the creators you're watching, not YT.

2. Ad revenue is a very large portion of income for most creators. It's definitely not as large as sponsorship deals, but it's nothing to sneeze at. You people who are entitled to your free content aren't sticking it to the man by refusing to watch ads. Instead you're directly hurting the creators you enjoy watching by specifically depriving them of any ad revenue they may otherwise have gained from you. Shut up and sit down and watch the 30 second ad or stop watching YT altogether. The creators don't give a crap either way because you clearly don't give a crap about financially supporting them in the simplest way possible.

3. If anything, I believe YT will stop showing ads if they're too prevalent. There's a feature where creators can play ads at the beginning/ending of their videos. These ads don't play all the time, and I think that's because the YT algorithm is making sure that if you're doing something like playing music it doesn't play an ad at the beginning of every single song even if the video creator tries to make that happen.

Honestly, these comments read as if cable didn't exist just a few years ago (and still does today!) where they literally play 2 minutes of ads for every 5ish minutes of content. Even with DVR, skipping through the ads would take around 30 seconds (and then you have to adjust to make sure you didn't skip too far and everything) which is the length of typical YT ads. Buck up and pay up to support the "amazing" content that you selfishly indulge in and refuse to pay for out of a warped sense of entitlement.

Contrary to popular belief, most content creators are not putting their content out for free. They're putting it out knowing the majority of viewers will at least watch the ads and help them make money.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

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>people do not want to pay People don't want to pay for subscriptions because everything has become a bait and switch with infinite tiers! Whether it's the local newspaper, or a mega-tech company's corporate offerings. I tried subscribing (online) to my hometown newspaper within the last year. And a major national news publication. You know how people say (or used to) that the garbage on the internet is the fault of…

YouTube premium has just one tier. And before you raise the hypothetical question of additional tiers in future, by that kind of logic people shouldn't make any recurring purchase of anything since in future terms might change.

For now.

It's just like cable TV. They promised that a subscription to cable TV would mean no ads. They lied, and went back on their promise within a very short time.

They'll do the same here.

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#369

YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…

Paying to skip ads just raises the value of your attention even further because now they know you've got enough disposable income to pay for such frivolous things. The truth is that not advertising to everyone at all times is leaving money on the table and it's only a matter of time before some bonus-seeking executive turns that into his payday opportunity. Besides, even if you pay for premium you'll still get ads ha…

> Ads are immoral

How do you justify this claim? How can advertising your product to attract customers be morally wrong?

Re: YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers

#370

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I think you make a good point but I think part of the problem is that it is difficult to get people to pay for something that they have gotten used to getting for free.

It makes no sense to pay for YouTube premium when you can use ad blockers. Which is why google is removing that option.

One thing I haven't seen discussed here is: how exactly are they going to remove that option? Are they going to embed the ads into the video stream on-the-fly somehow?
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