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Re: Google I/O: Big changes coming for SEOs with ubiquitous AI

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Post by blibble »

m3kw9 wrote: post #45
candiddevmike wrote: post #4

Hot take: SEO is dead, content farms are done, almost no one will leave Google/Bing to read more than what it generates. Thank you content writers for your service training LLMs. Here's 10 amazing ways to find a new career in a LLM world.

It’s a pain to having to prompt everything. People still want to see certain identity when browsing, for example browsing CNN or wired. Prompting “show me some interesting tech articles”, and you know a lot of that is Ai generated, it feels stale

entire internet is going to become taboola

Re: Google I/O: Big changes coming for SEOs with ubiquitous AI

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Post by kajaktum »

Alupis wrote: post #75
edmundsauto wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your blog post's knowledge-dump ends up never being seen. I don't think this is true - it ends up being added to a soup of knowledge that is ladled out as people ask about it. It might not directly be seen, but it may contribute more to the overall knowledge about the space since OP's knowledge is now able to be sliced, diced, and recombined. It sucks for the individual who wants to be credited, and it is annoying…

> But for someone who wants to increase the knowledge in the world, it's not so bad... You may actually be decreasing the knowledge of the world. It's not difficult to imagine a future where people do not know how to effectively communicate, and instead rely on ChatGPT (or whatever) to communicate for them. Or a future where nobody knows anything, and instead blindly trusts the output of AI models. There's already da…

I think you are just hating on LLMs because its a new thing. You can similarly argue that internet will ruin our social life because we no longer have to go to the library and meet with strangers researching up similar topics. But I don’t see anyone arguing against internet?

Progress is here, old man. Thinking that people will deliberately go out of their way to grok through pages of PDF documentations hoping to find that one line of relevant information instead of just asking is stupid and misguided.

Re: Google I/O: Big changes coming for SEOs with ubiquitous AI

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Post by droopyEyelids »

hoppyhoppy2 wrote: post #57
brookst wrote: post #19

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Are you saying that the motive for posting a bread recipe that starts with 5000 words about the history of bread will evaporate, so we'll be left with websites from enthusiasts who have something interesting to say?

I'm a little worried about the coming flood of AI-generated "recipes" that fit some linguistic model but have never been cooked by any human.

I've been using ChatGPT to generate recipes both for things I already cook, and for things I'm new to cooking and testing the result against what I find online.

So far it's a good cook! There are times when an ingredient appears in different amounts than I'd expect (like 1c of oil for a 4c/flour taralli recipe) but overall it's comparable to the quality of human written recipes, and better than many.

Re: Google I/O: Big changes coming for SEOs with ubiquitous AI

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Post by waboremo »

failuser wrote: post #62
waboremo wrote: post #38

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Why wouldn't Google [replace with whoever becomes owner of leading AI platform] just hire experts themselves to generate for LLMs? Seems like the obvious next step. For clarity, I'm not saying I particularly like that future, but I have a hard time grasping why you think a paywall would be an obstacle here. Especially not for the wealthiest corporations (ever). Additionally because most paywalls to information have v…

This is just too expensive. Google is used to get all the content for free.

Right now, but if information becomes a serious obstacle for Google/AI platforms in general, it would easily spend billions to ensure control.

It's not as if Google is a stranger to hiring experts to keep them away from other places!

Re: Google I/O: Big changes coming for SEOs with ubiquitous AI

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Post by escapedmoose »

rpastuszak wrote: post #54
candiddevmike wrote: post #4

Hot take: SEO is dead, content farms are done, almost no one will leave Google/Bing to read more than what it generates. Thank you content writers for your service training LLMs. Here's 10 amazing ways to find a new career in a LLM world.

B…but I’ve just started my (medieval) content farm. https://tidings.potato.horse/about

I think I’m in love with you, dear farmer.

(Jk, but truly a beautiful site. Every link I clicked was a delight. Your brain seems like a marvelous place.)

Re: Google I/O: Big changes coming for SEOs with ubiquitous AI

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Post by mensetmanusman »

Alupis wrote: post #41
prepend wrote: post #32

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> I would not make a publicly searchable blog or Github repository if I were well-versed in setting such RDS on-premises You won’t. But I will and I think others will as well. My goal is to help people set up RDS and I don’t care about commercialization. So happy if AI reuses all the material. There are many technical blogs that are just hobbies, or fun, or brand PR, or book tie ins or whatever.

You aren't helping people, though, you're helping a for-profit company earn billions of dollars off your, and other's good will and knowledge. The for-profit company is helping people, in exchange for direct and/or indirect monetization. Your blog post's knowledge-dump ends up never being seen. This is why StackOverflow reacted so poorly to Stack Exchange's announcement they would be using all of your hard work to tr…

“You aren't helping people, though, you're helping a for-profit company earn billions of dollars off your, and other's good will and knowledge.“

No. He is helping people and he is helping for profit companies.

Both are true at the same time. You can’t help people without also helping the companies. Wealth generation is not zero sum.

Re: Google I/O: Big changes coming for SEOs with ubiquitous AI

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Post by ipaddr »

brookst wrote: post #77
ipaddr wrote: post #67

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In this future there is no Matt Levine because he can't make a living getting viewers and no replacement.

Why are viewers the only way to make a living? It wasn't always that way.

It was always this way. If no one buys your paper you shutdown writers have no jobs and stop writing. If no one buys your book same deal.

What era are you referring to?

Re: Google I/O: Big changes coming for SEOs with ubiquitous AI

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Post by concordDance »

Alupis wrote: post #41
prepend wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I would not make a publicly searchable blog or Github repository if I were well-versed in setting such RDS on-premises You won’t. But I will and I think others will as well. My goal is to help people set up RDS and I don’t care about commercialization. So happy if AI reuses all the material. There are many technical blogs that are just hobbies, or fun, or brand PR, or book tie ins or whatever.

You aren't helping people, though, you're helping a for-profit company earn billions of dollars off your, and other's good will and knowledge. The for-profit company is helping people, in exchange for direct and/or indirect monetization. Your blog post's knowledge-dump ends up never being seen. This is why StackOverflow reacted so poorly to Stack Exchange's announcement they would be using all of your hard work to tr…

> You aren't helping people

This seems trivially false. Even if the info just gets sucked into an LLM there will still be people helped.

Re: Google I/O: Big changes coming for SEOs with ubiquitous AI

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Post by freediver »

Smoosh wrote: post #2

I see mention in the article of content creation. But are search engines working on task-related personal assistants? For one example, If I want to take a holiday, could an assistant work out the best dates (based upon preferences of availability, cost etc), and research the best airfares (excluding that particular airline I hate) and find a hotel room with the features I want, and throw in a few sightseeing activiti…

We are working on this as a part of Kagi Search Labs, but it is worth noting that this steps outside the domain of search engines. By the time this technology matures, we will be talking about digital assistants.
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