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Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

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#122
I get the feeling that all these "digital detox" apps, if they aim to scale and make more money, will do so by "whitelisting" certain popular apps by making access to them relatively easier, bottlenecking the competitors.

Let's say it's the future, 10% of phone users have some version of this on their phone. Snapchat pays them 10 million to reduce the penalty for using Snapchat auto-suggest Instagram on the block list.

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

#123

I’ve been using onesec[1] for a year now it’s been working great for me. Additionally works great on the browser I use. Onesec uses the shortcut/automation on iOS to intercept app open and not the screen time api you mentioned. So it does take a little time for the initial setup, that’s the only friction I remember from a long time. Just putting it out there. I do like the additional social feature here. Would give i…

I've also been using one sec, and ended up paying for Pro use. A feature I really like is the ability to increase the duration of the waiting period every time you successfully open the app within a 24 hour period. Just a suggestion if you're looking for them.

It's also very rigorous about switching to the app from other apps, to the point where even if you quickly switch out it will make you wait again when switching back. The ability to bypass this within a 10 minute window (or whatever) is what made me pay for it. Not sure if yours does the same thing, but thought I'd suggest that too. I'll give yours a try. Thanks for making my phone better!

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

#124

I get the feeling that all these "digital detox" apps, if they aim to scale and make more money, will do so by "whitelisting" certain popular apps by making access to them relatively easier, bottlenecking the competitors. Let's say it's the future, 10% of phone users have some version of this on their phone. Snapchat pays them 10 million to reduce the penalty for using Snapchat auto-suggest Instagram on the block lis…

that's an interesting one - it's one of the reasons we've opted for consumer subscription as a business model. we want our interests to be firmly aligned with our users best intentions for themselves. they pay us to spend less of their life doing things they ultimately don't are about. we make money by helping them spend less of their life doing things they ultimately don't care about. as long as that's true, I think it would be pretty easy to say no when snapchat comes along asking for a service-specific friction reduction.

our real hope is actually that tools like clearspace tip the balance of power to individuals. if snapchat or IG are taking a real hit, they'll finally be incentivized to minimize “regrettable time” spent on their apps. that's probably an easier task than doing a backdoor deal with a company who makes its money but protecting its users from regrettable screen time.

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

#125

It is wholly interesting that such a tool is needed. We need a new generation motivated by self-control and at an early age be critical of how technology triggers dopamine responses. I would be interested in seeing clinical classification of app addictions as a real health issue that deserves treatment. The real answer is to put down the phone. We (in this industry) are all complicit in the creation and promulgation…

Wouldn't it be easier not to give kids phones or tables until they are a certain age? I feel like the only reason my friends and I aren't addicted to apps is because we didn't grow up having a smartphone available all day. I got my first smartphone when I was about 20, so I never developed the compulsion of having it around me all the time

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#126
I'm a Clearspace user who found this app via a post on HN, and I can't thank the creators enough. I have not fully extracted myself from use of Reddit yet, but it's remarkable how effective this app was at breaking my cycle of opening, scrolling, closing, and reopening less than an hour later. I've tried other screentime management apps, but it seems like something about Clearspace's approach with the centering exercises and the intentional choice to spend X minutes browsing changes your mental relationship with the feed.

I genuinely feel as though I am more present during idle moments and have reclaimed time to myself - truly to myself - during my weekends.

I am very grateful for Clearspace. Now, I just wish you'd release a Firefox extension so I can lock down Reddit from my computer too.

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

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Hi Royce and Oliver, I have a suggestion: look into dimming the screen slowly for the last 30-60 seconds before you pull a person out of the app. This will greatly decrease the annoyance of being pulled out. It gives you time to anticipate being done with your session. I do this with my toddler. We let him use our phone to look at family videos while we are changing him. If I turn the phone off abruptly, it can be fr…

Really love this idea!

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

#128

I'm a Clearspace user who found this app via a post on HN, and I can't thank the creators enough. I have not fully extracted myself from use of Reddit yet, but it's remarkable how effective this app was at breaking my cycle of opening, scrolling, closing, and reopening less than an hour later. I've tried other screentime management apps, but it seems like something about Clearspace's approach with the centering exerc…

thanks so much for this. desktop solution coming as fast as we can build it!

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

#129

I'm a Clearspace user who found this app via a post on HN, and I can't thank the creators enough. I have not fully extracted myself from use of Reddit yet, but it's remarkable how effective this app was at breaking my cycle of opening, scrolling, closing, and reopening less than an hour later. I've tried other screentime management apps, but it seems like something about Clearspace's approach with the centering exerc…

^new favorite username

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

great question. a few ways 1. no, we're more expensive (at least last I checked they were 3.99/mon we're 6.99/mon or 44.99/yr) 2. yes we just rolled out website support this week. 3. no manual shortcut setup. just one click to add an app you want to moderate. (for websites you can go to an app you've added and just type in which web domains should apply to that app.) 4. yes, probably! we can pull you out of app sessi…

> no manual shortcut setup. just one click to add an app you want to moderate Is that true? When I click an app I'd like to moderate I see yellow text saying "Finish Setup!" Then I'm brought to the recorded video explaining how to do the shortcut setup. One click set up would be sweet, but I'd be somewhat surprised to hear apple lets you do the whole shortcut setup for the user. Would also be nice if the interrupt af…

ahh sorry should have specified - one-click functionality is available for iOS 16 and later, since that's when the ScreenTime API was integrated. if you/when you do upgrade to iOS 16, you won't get the new version of clearspace automatically, you'll need to delete your existing app and then re-download. (you'll also want to turn off that shortcut that you set up when you do that :)
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