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Post by candiodari » Wed, May 10, 2023, 7:35 PM UTC

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> Cars that live 20+ years are probably a minority. That seems vastly unlikely? But I don't have stats one way or the other. My newest car is 19 years old and it's like new for all purposes. My other cars currently are 30 and 35 years old and aside from paint faiding they are as good as new. With reasonable maintenance, cars will last for many many decades.

You are by far the exception, especially since being on HN, you're most likely to be middle class or higher. Poor people have cars that old, usually, there's a reason they're called "beaters". People in general try not to have cars older than around 7 years if they can, that's the "public wisdom" regarding when cars start having bigger maintenance problems. Edit: There you go, data: https://hedgescompany.com/blog/202…

Post by linksnapzz » Thu, May 11, 2023, 12:53 AM UTC

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The cost of a basic economy car, from the start of the emissions & safety era to today, is about double in constant dollars.

What date are you using as the start of the emissions safety era? A base price 1995 Ford Contour was $13805–$16190 [1]. ABS was an upgrade option on that car. A 2023 Nissan Versa is $15730 [2] Even the cheapest cars from 1975 cost the equivalent of $17000 in today's dollars [3] 1. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15143064/1995-10best-... 2. https://magazine.northeast.aaa.com/daily/life/cars-trucks/ch... . 3. ht…

Post by linksnapzz » Thu, May 11, 2023, 1:20 AM UTC

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I was thinking of a 1970 Dodge Dart, which last I checked was $21,000 in 2021 dollars; compared to the price of an average new car today ~42K. That today's average car might have more features is true; but for many of these features, you're not allowed to forego them in favor of a new, decontented, cheaper car.

> I was thinking of a 1970 Dodge Dart, which last I checked was $21,000 in 2021 dollars; compared to the price of an average new car today ~42K. A more relevant comparison would be the $3452 average new car price in 1970 against today, which is $27,704 in today's dollars. > That today's average car might have more features is true; but for many of these features, you're not allowed to forego them in favor of a new, d…

Post by dragonwriter » Thu, May 11, 2023, 1:45 AM UTC

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What date are you using as the start of the emissions safety era? A base price 1995 Ford Contour was $13805–$16190 [1]. ABS was an upgrade option on that car. A 2023 Nissan Versa is $15730 [2] Even the cheapest cars from 1975 cost the equivalent of $17000 in today's dollars [3] 1. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15143064/1995-10best-... 2. https://magazine.northeast.aaa.com/daily/life/cars-trucks/ch... . 3. ht…

>A base price 1995 Ford Contour was $13805–$16190 [1]. ABS was an upgrade option on that car. True; and interesting that the Contour struggled in the market due to it being noticeably more expensive than the model it replaced! The thought was that being a much better car (to the tune of $6 billion in development costs), Ford could sell it on its merits, but as it turns out, buyers of small cars in the US are really,…

Post by LarryDarrell » Thu, May 11, 2023, 2:42 PM UTC

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It used to be that things not made out of steel on a Jeep would fail, but that was a minimum of parts, back in the '60s. Nowadays, though...

My 89 Cherokee was like this but since 2010 they're just all complete junk.