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Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by ghaff »

vineyardmike wrote: post #149
DrScientist wrote: post #118

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Same sort of thing happened to WWDC. I once worked somewhere where the only people who actually went to WWDC where the IT admins and Apple fans,rather than developers. From a developer perspective - online if so good now, why do you need to travel? ( unless you really want 1:1 with Apple/Google Devs ). So the only people who travel end up being the people their for the 'event' and the 'one more thing' excitement.

I think conferences have long been about the socializing and the excuse to travel. “Learning” was the pretend business excuse.

The getting away from the day job and serendipitous discovery are benefits in addition to meeting with people and socializing. But I think a lot of conference goers approach it as a sprint to maximize sessions and if that’s your goal online is probably more efficient.

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Post by elicash »

cloudking wrote: post #387
elicash wrote: post #59

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I'm excited to see anything they actually launch for Bard/Workspace, less so about what they have planned. But still excited for it.

The updates to Workspace and Bard integration look great, what did you think?

Thrilled. Of course, I want to see Bard for myself. I pay for OpenAI to use unlimited GPT4 right now. Maybe I end up not having to do that, we'll see, it depends on how it performs. I wasn't impressed previously but with each update I'll give it another try.

I just need to somehow convince my large organization's IT team to enable the Workspace updates in Workspace Labs, which is likely to take some time. That's likely a few months, at least, but not the fault of google!

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Post by ShamelessC »

computing wrote: post #198

In 2018 an obnoxious researcher working at a company known at the time as DeepMind told me (who was working in healthtech) that "AI in healthcare is a solved problem". It's 2023 now. AI in healthcare is a rounding error and will likely stay that way for a decade or longer. Google blew a 7 year lead of being an AI-first company to a non-profit. DeepMind is now a team within Google, similar to Ads, Drive, and Shopping…

I’m curious what they had been referring to at the time? Was AlphaFold out then? Or were they just clueless?

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Post by r0m4n0 »

spike021 wrote: post #330
r0m4n0 wrote: post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

I don't understand the point of your comment. Are you comparing discussion of a (relatively legacy) software application to an entire developer conference with a mostly singular focus on a newer, evolving technology? I'm not trying to be an Apple apologist here but maybe this discussion would be better discussed in roughly a month when WWDC happens.

I’m comparing sentiment, hype, upvoting, etc on a particular topic. I think HN isn’t what it used to be but maybe that’s me having old man syndrome. People on HN are happy discussing boring apps on iPad and crapping on all things Google instead of the gold rush of new functionality driven by AI. I’ll just say I’m not the only one that thinks this judging by the response and upvotes on my observation

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Post by flangola7 »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #342
toddmorey wrote: post #332

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It will be interesting to see how the data & AI conversations evolve. A bit like smartphones, I’m scared we’ll first see an explosion of features then some backtracking to figure out the security & privacy models. I wish we’d learned to start with security. I didn’t get to see the entire thing, but I did see the AI-enabled cinematic photo backgrounds. All I could think is man that’s a lot of analysis of my personal i…

>A bit like smartphones, I’m scared we’ll first see an explosion of features then some backtracking to figure out the security & privacy models When was the backtracking with smartphones?

Permission models and universal encryption did not exist at the beginning.

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Post by arnaudsm »

noisy_boy wrote: post #278

To all the people who have been espousing how they appreciate cover letters, good luck - you'll be swimming in them, all AI generated. There will be a sea of all good, all positive fake text and text will lose its meaning. We used to appreciate a nicely written mail - now AI will be writing perfectly composed letters. We will learn to appreciate a badly written mail.

When everyone will write 500-word emails with AI, only to be summarized by AI again.

I hope we will realize how absurd it is and just write 2-sentence emails.

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Post by flangola7 »

dougmwne wrote: post #327
RandomThrow321 wrote: post #303

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If AI can generate them trivially, maybe that suggests cover letters should not have been that important to begin with. To me, the main benefit of a cover letter is that it shows the applicant is engaged enough to actually make an application that is specific to a job posting. That is still the case with AI, it just saves everyone creating them a huge amount of work - most of which is completely wasted when the major…

The ability to write a polite and on-topic email used to be a valuable skill to demonstrate. Not so much anymore.

Knowing how to ride a horse for many hours was once a valuable skill. So too will become everything AI achieves parity on.

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Post by verdverm »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #183
verdverm wrote: post #82

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I'm not an Apple follower, what innovation have they produced in the last 5+ years that the sibling comments deride Google for? I would argue the TPU is far more interesting than the M1, other than that, is it not just marginal improvements on existing products?

Airpods are in a category of their own. Multibillion dollar business that redefined the headphone industry

That's a brand thing, not innovation

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Post by flangola7 »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #349
ducttapecrown wrote: post #329

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Texters and readers of Homestuck have been practicing for decades at appreciating badly written mail. I believe human-to-human knowledge transfers will still be fine :). I'm fucking scared of the incoming spam tsunami though!

> I'm fucking scared of the incoming spam tsunami though! Why? Presumably with spam emails they write the email once and send it to a billion people. I don't see why an LLM meaningfully helps this process.

You can write a unique and custom tailored email to each person, based on what information you have on them. Spear spam/phishing as a service.

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Post by verdverm »

lancesells wrote: post #363
verdverm wrote: post #82

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I'm not an Apple follower, what innovation have they produced in the last 5+ years that the sibling comments deride Google for? I would argue the TPU is far more interesting than the M1, other than that, is it not just marginal improvements on existing products?

There's one thing that made Google great and it was search. It's no longer great and hasn't been for some time. I don't even think it's entirely their fault, but their brand and sentiment has taken a hit from that. Also, the data harvesting is much more common knowledge.

Apple has been increasing their own data harvesting and advertising, so same shoe different foot.

Google Cloud is fantastic compared to the others. I don't know why people still go to AWS, nothing interesting has happened, it seems like very little has changed. My biggest gripes are the cookie cutter EC2 vs the flexibility of GCP VMs and the account/project switching in AWS vs GCP.

Google is also one of the few companies at the forefront of AI. There is definite innovation there.

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