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Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by spopejoy »

elliotec wrote: post #320
Melatonic wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Final Cut is definitely not the industry standard - most pros abandoned it after they completely rebuilt it from the ground up years ago and it sucked hard

What is? Adobe? Davinci? My assumption was also that Final Cut Pro was _the_ one.

FCP 7 was dominant but the disaster of early versions of FCP X forced a bunch of shops to switch to Premiere.

There are still things that make Premiere better. Recently I couldn't get an mp4 from a Sony cam to play at the right speed in FCP no matter what I tried, and it just worked in Premiere. I'm more fluid in FCP but I will probably switch too as Premiere just "feels more pro" now to me.

I've heard some great reports about Davinci, especially for post.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by sebzim4500 »

toddmorey wrote: post #332
RandomThrow321 wrote: post #306

Maybe going against the grain here, but this was the best Google I/O I've seen in a long time. In the past, they seemed liked incremental updates on their hardware (which I don't care too much about) or some new products like the pixel watch / glasses (which I probably won't use). I knew there would be a huge focus on AI this year, but I was pleasantly surprised by many of the new features and how quickly these integ…

It will be interesting to see how the data & AI conversations evolve. A bit like smartphones, I’m scared we’ll first see an explosion of features then some backtracking to figure out the security & privacy models. I wish we’d learned to start with security. I didn’t get to see the entire thing, but I did see the AI-enabled cinematic photo backgrounds. All I could think is man that’s a lot of analysis of my personal i…

>A bit like smartphones, I’m scared we’ll first see an explosion of features then some backtracking to figure out the security & privacy models

When was the backtracking with smartphones?

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by sebzim4500 »

RandomThrow321 wrote: post #306

Maybe going against the grain here, but this was the best Google I/O I've seen in a long time. In the past, they seemed liked incremental updates on their hardware (which I don't care too much about) or some new products like the pixel watch / glasses (which I probably won't use). I knew there would be a huge focus on AI this year, but I was pleasantly surprised by many of the new features and how quickly these integ…

I am currently in a superposition of being very excited and very underwhelmed. The wavefunction will collapse once I can actually play with the technology and find out if it is anywhere close to as good as they claim.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by Demoloto »

As usual the most interesting things which actually will change the world is not getting any reactions while dark mode does.

Med-Palm2 (and what Google is pushing/working on with partners for a few years) will have a huge social impact.

In parallel there are things which are just really weird like the picture with the bench were the shadow us clearly just bad.

Anyway crazy how ml is now just here.

And in parallel I still think it's tremendously stupid that they really build that Blockchain cloud service.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by oceanplexian »

smoldesu wrote: post #257
fomine3 wrote: post #226

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YC news is still weird for praising Apple

Not really. Every entrepreneur has to worship the Steve Jobs handbook if they want jaded middle-aged Disney investors to open their wallets for $TECH_PRODUCT. It's not uncommon or surprising to see people in the startup sphere who are unnaturally defensive of Apple/iOS/MacOS.

Woz and Jobs started out building Blue Boxes (https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/blue-box-designed-an...) They then created Apple as a hobbyist outfit in a garage, soldering chips together so they could demo a DIY computer programmed in Assembler at a computer club. As opposed to what, a company that exists to sell the equivalent of billboard ads on the Internet? Out of Big Tech, Apple has the strongest claim to any kind of hacker culture.

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Post by rob74 »

lucidyan wrote: post #282
Melatonic wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Final Cut is definitely not the industry standard - most pros abandoned it after they completely rebuilt it from the ground up years ago and it sucked hard

Do not know about Final Cut (it's well optimized for Silicon by the way), but Logic Pro is definitely one of the music industry standards.

Since other semiconductors like Germanium aren't used to build CPUs, I would argue all current software is optimized for Silicon?

SCNR...

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by nr2x »

eclipxe wrote: post #339
nr2x wrote: post #261

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Some of the key people behind translate founded OpenAI. Don’t forget it’s always been about the people, not the brand. Google was good at attracting and retaining the best and brightest. Now they aren’t.

Citation needed?

Ask and ye shall receive:

“Based in part on his work with Hinton, Sutskever was hired by Google. There, he implemented a neural-network-driven approach to language translation that produced fewer errors than competing efforts. His work provided the basis for a major upgrade to Google Translate. “Researchers didn’t believe that neural networks could do translation, so it was a big surprise when they could,” he says.”

https://magazine.utoronto.ca/people/alumni-donors/heard-it-t...

Hinton left last week as well.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by cruano »

actuator wrote: post #98
r0m4n0 wrote: post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

HN tends to bias towards pro Apple. You would see people doing mental gymnastics trying to defend their closed anti competitive practices, disregard for standards. I would cheer a Sennheiser/Bose more than any version of Airpods, I would rather not have a multi trillion dollar company gobble up other industries through unfair advantages. Seeing a hacker crowd do this is just beyond bizzare.

My Sennheiser HD8s and their propietary cable begs to differ. And also keep in mind you are favoring Bose, the multi-million dollar company that didn't bat an eye when they decided to introduce spyware on their app.

Apple has done the wrong thing many times, but audio is not one of them. They offered a legitimate better product, to the point the only headphones I would rather use are IEMs that cost 8 times as much.

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Post by sebzim4500 »

ducttapecrown wrote: post #329
noisy_boy wrote: post #278

To all the people who have been espousing how they appreciate cover letters, good luck - you'll be swimming in them, all AI generated. There will be a sea of all good, all positive fake text and text will lose its meaning. We used to appreciate a nicely written mail - now AI will be writing perfectly composed letters. We will learn to appreciate a badly written mail.

Texters and readers of Homestuck have been practicing for decades at appreciating badly written mail. I believe human-to-human knowledge transfers will still be fine :). I'm fucking scared of the incoming spam tsunami though!

> I'm fucking scared of the incoming spam tsunami though!

Why? Presumably with spam emails they write the email once and send it to a billion people. I don't see why an LLM meaningfully helps this process.

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Post by haldean »

elliotec wrote: post #320
Melatonic wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Final Cut is definitely not the industry standard - most pros abandoned it after they completely rebuilt it from the ground up years ago and it sucked hard

What is? Adobe? Davinci? My assumption was also that Final Cut Pro was _the_ one.

Most big-budget feature films are cut on Avid and that's been the case for a while now; for indies my impression is that it's 50/50 Premiere and Resolve, yup.
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