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Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by [deleted] »

kyrra wrote: post #16
skinkestek wrote: post #4

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! When Google was a startup and even a decade in they managed to treat everyone the same. Today this has went backwards like everything else Google it seems.

The problem of being a massive company is that everyone wants to sue you. They could want to sue you for money. Or maybe sue you because they think you are bad. Whatever the reason, when you're Google's size, you need to make sure you're compliant with every local regulation before you launch anything or someone may come after you. Googler, opinions are my own.

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Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

Seems significantly worse than ChatGPT for coding, let alone GPT-4. It fails in an easy question(tried multiple times, and it gave wrong answer each time)

    Write code to find middle of three numbers in python without using the sorted function
    
    def find_middle_of_three_numbers(a, b, c):
      """Finds the middle number of three numbers.
    
      Args:
        a: The first number.
        b: The second number.
        c: The third number.
    
      Returns:
        The middle number.
      """
    
      # Check if the numbers are in order.
      if a > b:
        a, b = b, a
      if b > c:
        b, c = c, b
    
      # Return the middle number.
      return b

Re: Bard now open to use

#113

Post by freedomben »

skinkestek wrote: post #64
kyrra wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem of being a massive company is that everyone wants to sue you. They could want to sue you for money. Or maybe sue you because they think you are bad. Whatever the reason, when you're Google's size, you need to make sure you're compliant with every local regulation before you launch anything or someone may come after you. Googler, opinions are my own.

If that worries Google, they should fix the cookie options on the Google I/O page on the frontpage. It is wildly noncompliant, and Google should be sued over it like they were over the same thing in YouTube in France.

> If that worries Google, they should fix the cookie options on the Google I/O page on the frontpage.

> It is wildly noncompliant, and Google should be sued over it like they were over the same thing in YouTube in France.

this really reinforces GP's point

Re: Bard now open to use

#114

Post by Lutzb »

MegaDeKay wrote: post #10
skinkestek wrote: post #4

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! When Google was a startup and even a decade in they managed to treat everyone the same. Today this has went backwards like everything else Google it seems.

"Google Bard now open to use..." in the USA only, apparently. At least it is not working north of the border yet.

Not working in Germany.

Re: Bard now open to use

#115

Post by mrnotcrazy »

naillo wrote: post #24

Just as everyone is getting tired of LLMs and realizing they're not as useful as they initially seemed

I don’t think everyone is getting tired of LLMs. Citation needed. Personally I use chatgpt everyday for all kinds of stuff, it’s just a part of my workflow now

Re: Bard now open to use

#116

Post by satvikpendem »

jokabrink wrote: post #76

Hah, this isn't surprising: An internal leaked Google document ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35813322 ) a couple days ago pretty much pushed the idea. Still interesting to see the action follow so short afterwards. Three quotes from the document: - "Owning the Ecosystem: Letting Open Source Work for Us" - "Google should establish itself a leader in the open source community, taking the lead by cooperating wi…

But, Bard isn't open source, so I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by simon_acca »

kyrra wrote: post #16
skinkestek wrote: post #4

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! When Google was a startup and even a decade in they managed to treat everyone the same. Today this has went backwards like everything else Google it seems.

The problem of being a massive company is that everyone wants to sue you. They could want to sue you for money. Or maybe sue you because they think you are bad. Whatever the reason, when you're Google's size, you need to make sure you're compliant with every local regulation before you launch anything or someone may come after you. Googler, opinions are my own.

Surprising that when it came time to restructure they didn’t adopt a model where the parent company (alphabet) owns all of the infrastructure and provide services to many independent smaller initiatives that would then be much less constrained.

If they are unwilling to let go of the Google brand (understandable!) then the parent company perhaps should have been called Google.

Re: Bard now open to use

#118

Post by xiande04 »

I asked it what ports `nmap -sn` and `nmap -F` scan. It correctly stated that `-sn` does not scan ports. It then stated that `-F` also uses a ping scan (false) and does not scan any ports (also false).

When I quoted the man page on -F, it said this:

> You're right. The nmap man page does say that `nmap -F` scans fewer ports than the default scan. However, it does not say that `nmap -F` scans any ports at all.

1. It's arguing with me. 2. Sure, "fewer" could mean "zero", but no human would say "fewer" when they mean "zero".

ChatGPT, it should be noted, correctly answered the question (and didn't argue over silly semantics).

Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

nr2x wrote: post #60
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I despise the tracking that happens, I don't see how this isn't a valid form of consent. Don't make a Google account and agree to Google's terms for making the account, or do and understand that consent has been provided.

Coerced consent for non-essential functions is illegal in many places, and that’s number is rapidly growing.

This sign-in button is coerced consent? You can choose not to sign in. What is the coercion?

> non-essential functions

Are you sure you're not talking about cookie consent laws? (The reason "non-essential" is a qualifier for cookies is that, e.g., a log in session will require the use of cookies but is also considered "essential".)

(Please also understand the appeal to authority in "is illegal in many places". That's aside from the point I bring up.)

Re: Bard now open to use

#120

Post by khazhoux »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #62
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What absolute nonsense. This is a list of countries just off the top of my head that has sued Google in the last decade: United States European Union (which consists of multiple member states) Australia France Germany Italy Spain Russia India Brazil South Korea Turkey Canada

The members of the EU are countries, not states (& the EU itself is a political/economic alliance, not a country).

Of course they know that. How dumb would one have to be to not know France, Italy, Germany are countries? :-)
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