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Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by singularity2001 »

nancyhn wrote: post #54

What's the difference between you and ChatGPT? ChatGPT and I are both large language models, but there are some key differences between us. Here are a few: Training data: ChatGPT was trained on a massive dataset of text and code, while I was trained on a dataset that includes text, code, and images. This means that I am able to generate more creative and informative responses. Fine-tuning: ChatGPT was fine-tuned usin…

"ChatGPT has been designed with safety in mind, while I have not. This means that I am more likely to generate harmful or untruthful outputs."

Did it really say that? :)

Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by ck_one »

tmoravec wrote: post #26

Does anyone have experience with how Bard compares to ChatGPT-4? If ChatGPT-4 is on the verge of usefulness for a layperson, is it worth spending time with Bard?

Code generation works better for me compared to GPT-4 and it's a lot faster.

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Post by execveat »

tmoravec wrote: post #26

Does anyone have experience with how Bard compares to ChatGPT-4? If ChatGPT-4 is on the verge of usefulness for a layperson, is it worth spending time with Bard?

Not even close. I'd prefer local WizardLM/Vicuna to this Artificial Idiot.

The funniest to me is that one of the examples they suggest you try is asking questions about google/jax repo, which kinda suggest that Bart can index source code from GitHub. Well, it fails even at listing directory structure and completely hallucinates all following answers!

I'm not sure why Google would bother releasing Bart in this state. It's made me lose respect for their AI competency.

Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by jeffbee »

sidibe wrote: post #30
capableweb wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's nothing compared to GPT3.5 which is bad when compared to GPT4, why did they even release it?

I've found it useful for explaining some hairy shell code when ChatGPT wouldn't load for me.

That’s when I use it, too. During chatgpt’s constant outages. It is the second google product that fills this role for me. The first was Spaces, for when Slack is down.

Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by ohgodplsno »

skinkestek wrote: post #4

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! When Google was a startup and even a decade in they managed to treat everyone the same. Today this has went backwards like everything else Google it seems.

That's the Google experience, even for extremely minor things. App Actions ? Not available outside the US. Nevermind, now it is, but only en_US can get custom actions recognized.

If only it worked well at least in the US, but from what I can hear, it's just like in the rest of the world: a disappointing, bland, unfinished experience on all of their products.

Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by fernly »

To a very specific product-choice question(1) it offered a very detailed and (at first glance) accurate and useful list of alternative products.

OTOH when I asked it to write a specific piece of PyQt6 code it botched it in several ways -- as did chatGPT4, to be fair. That's a niche area in which their training sets are probably deficient.

(1) Name some economical alternatives to the "Sennheiser XSW 1-835 Dual-Vocal Set"

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Post by Zenst »

Love the disclaimer at the bottom of the screen:

"Bard may display inaccurate or offensive information that doesn’t represent Google’s views."

Sure does set a course of accountability with AI down the line.

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Post by another_kel »

MegaDeKay wrote: post #10
skinkestek wrote: post #4

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! When Google was a startup and even a decade in they managed to treat everyone the same. Today this has went backwards like everything else Google it seems.

"Google Bard now open to use..." in the USA only, apparently. At least it is not working north of the border yet.

Works in Georgia(country, not state)

Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by PreInternet01 »

> Google Bard now open to use

Ah, cool, can't wait to see which service they will shut down next!

> Please sign in using your Google account

Ah, OK, fair, can't just shut down services without any metrics...

> Please insert and touch your USB key

Ah, OK, fair, you want your metrics to only pertain to real users like myself...

> Email alert: new sign-in from the same IP you always sign in to!

Ehhhm, yeah, OK, could not see that one coming... Should have accepted unlimited tracking cookies, I guess... chortle

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!

Ehhhhmmmmm, yeah, sure. Yup. I will. Stay. Tuned... SNORT

Re: Bard now open to use

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Post by scarmig »

skinkestek wrote: post #87
killerdhmo wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol dude, Google is being sued in like a dozen countries https://qz.com/google-is-in-a-world-of-trouble-from-governme... (and this article is from last year)

And for very good reasons. The way to avoid lawsuits in civilized countries is to avoid breaking the laws east and west. Start with the GDPR: There is no competent lawyer that doesn't understand the basics of GDPR, there are only companies that are testing if they can get away by playing dumb.

Avoiding breaking the law, here, means not allowing users in those countries to use services.
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