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Re: Bard now open to use

#31

Post by Karunamon » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:52 PM UTC

Worse than chatGPT at release. I pasted in a small (~50 sloc) discord bot plug-in I wrote that does conversion between a fictional timekeeping system and regular time and asked for a summary.

It got the formula wrong, invented details that were not present in the code and are not relevant to the particular fictional universe, and presented usage instructions that do not match discord semantics.

If this is the best thing Google can come up with, OpenAI is safe for a long time.

Re: Bard now open to use

#32

Post by gaogao » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:52 PM UTC

tmoravec wrote: post #26

Does anyone have experience with how Bard compares to ChatGPT-4? If ChatGPT-4 is on the verge of usefulness for a layperson, is it worth spending time with Bard?

Bard doesn't even best 3.5 save for having knowledge base lookups

Re: Bard now open to use

#33

Post by xxpor » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:52 PM UTC

skinkestek wrote: post #4

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! When Google was a startup and even a decade in they managed to treat everyone the same. Today this has went backwards like everything else Google it seems.

GDPR didn't exist when Google was a startup.

Re: Bard now open to use

#34

Post by gaogao » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:53 PM UTC

capableweb wrote: post #25

Workaccount2 wrote: post #21

Everyone complaining, don't worry, it's really nothing special compared to ChatGPT-3.5.

If it's nothing compared to GPT3.5 which is bad when compared to GPT4, why did they even release it?

They want that juicy RLHF training data

Re: Bard now open to use

#35

Post by TheWoodsy » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:54 PM UTC

MegaDeKay wrote: post #10

skinkestek wrote: post #4

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! When Google was a startup and even a decade in they managed to treat everyone the same. Today this has went backwards like everything else Google it seems.

"Google Bard now open to use..." in the USA only, apparently. At least it is not working north of the border yet.

Works in Australia

Re: Bard now open to use

#36

Post by bagacrap » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:54 PM UTC

I just asked it to give the Google assistant team some feedback, and it claims it forwarded it along. How can I figure out if that's true, I wonder.

Re: Bard now open to use

#37

Post by endisneigh » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:54 PM UTC

skinkestek wrote: post #4

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! When Google was a startup and even a decade in they managed to treat everyone the same. Today this has went backwards like everything else Google it seems.

> When Google was a startup and even a decade in they managed to treat everyone the same.

> Today this has went backwards like everything else Google it seems.

Google is not a startup. What's the point of comparing it to when it was 100 employees? Not to mention the regulatory changes that have occurred...

Re: Bard now open to use

#38

Post by killerdhmo » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:54 PM UTC

withinboredom wrote: post #28

kyrra wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem of being a massive company is that everyone wants to sue you. They could want to sue you for money. Or maybe sue you because they think you are bad. Whatever the reason, when you're Google's size, you need to make sure you're compliant with every local regulation before you launch anything or someone may come after you. Googler, opinions are my own.

Such a US-centric way of thinking. Not every country is as sue-happy as the US.

lol dude, Google is being sued in like a dozen countries https://qz.com/google-is-in-a-world-of-trouble-from-governme... (and this article is from last year)

Re: Bard now open to use

#39

Post by yftsui » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:55 PM UTC

withinboredom wrote: post #28

kyrra wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem of being a massive company is that everyone wants to sue you. They could want to sue you for money. Or maybe sue you because they think you are bad. Whatever the reason, when you're Google's size, you need to make sure you're compliant with every local regulation before you launch anything or someone may come after you. Googler, opinions are my own.

Such a US-centric way of thinking. Not every country is as sue-happy as the US.

Big companies would love to know what countries that they will never get sued and deal all shady stuff there, does it exist?

Re: Bard now open to use

#40

Post by PedroBatista » Wed, May 10, 2023, 6:55 PM UTC

> "Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! "

So the same as it has been for the last couple months..

Amazing. It's a good thing my level of interest is as low as their priorities.