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Post by seanmcdirmid »

actuator wrote: post #110
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems quite the opposite: HN biases towards anti-Apple, often for bizarre reasons that require lots of mental gymnastics to justify. You don’t really have to buy AirPods, there are lots of products out in the market that compete in that space. Just because Apple provides a certain product doesn’t mean you are being forced to buy it.

No one is forced to buy Airpods, but the first class integration that the product gets which others can't gives it a competitive advantage. This is besides the power to push the product through different channels to customers of iPhones, iPads etc. Another example is, no one is forced to buy Apple Music, but for sure it pops up front and center when you buy a iOS device or Mac. In fact, even when I keep removing the…

> Another example is, no one is forced to buy Apple Music, but for sure it pops up front and center when you buy a iOS device or Mac.

I never noticed, having never bought Apple Music before and just using spotify instead. I guess if I wanted it to run on a HomePod, I would need it?

> On top of this they will give you free subscription for 3/6 months when you buy a new device knowing full well that most customers won't bother cancelling. All of this behavior takes the air out of competitors like Spotify and is extremely anti competitive.

Doesn't Spotify do the same thing?

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Post by deltree7 »

slater wrote: post #217
deltree7 wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have a near perfect model of the universe, it isn't hard to predict stuff. It just needs prompting. Next question

Have you tried prompting it for "Dunning-Kruger effect"?

yes, most HNers are affected by it. That's why you see a massive anti-corp, anti-tech, anti-capitalist despite data screaming at them the massive benefits of tech, capitalism and corporation.

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Post by BMorearty »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #220

It's really nice to have a keynote that isn't KUBERNETES ISTIO BLOCKCHAIN. Lots of interesting AI integrations with existing products. The search and maps improvements are really exciting.

I missed the search and maps improvements. What did they say?

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Post by bilalq »

The focus on watermarking is interesting. If the major players embed watermarking, it probably will be meaningfully be used to detect cases where generated content is passed off as real. Unfortunately, proving authenticity isn't going to be possible. It's inevitable that there will be models out there built specifically to attempt to evade such detection. Society needs to adapt to the new reality that anything can be faked.

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Post by maxsilver »

r0m4n0 wrote: post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

Final Cut Pro is a thing people already use in their workflow, becoming more convenient for them. People have depended on this as part of their production-ready workflow for over 20+ years now, and FCP-folks seem to have a lot of trust in the application and related tooling, that Apple isn't going to leave or abandon Final Cut anytime soon.

Google's AI features are not something most of us use in our workflow, and are (arguably/debatably) not making anything more convenient for us. That's all in addition to it being Google, so there's a built-in assumption that no one can depend on any of this, because it might be discontinued at any point with little notice.

(I say this as someone who does not own an iPhone or Mac, and has been on Android for over a decade) -- I can see why Mac folks would be excited by the Mac announcement, and why some aren't that excited by Google right now.

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Post by Cockbrand »

WACHTING THE KNEYOTE AND playng a drinkiig game - 1 shott every tim a spaeker says 'generative AI" but now Icant' drink any more and the kenyote is stil runnig :(

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Post by deltree7 »

skeaker wrote: post #213
deltree7 wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lot of Googlers are anti-big-tech, anti-corporation :) 1) If you think Transformers weren't category defining, I don't know what to say. 2) Metaverse isn't a failure. That's like saying in 2019, "Chat Agents are a failure"

Metaverse is DoA. Public perception is that it is either too complicated/expensive to use or that it is essentially a worse VRChat. More technically inclined circles see it as a data harvester and crypto-scam breeding ground. Facebook itself does not use it for its supposed intended purpose of virtual conferencing, instead mandating that all employees return to the physical office to work. It has next to no adoption…

The Public's lack of imagination / vision is the worst indicator of anything. There is a reason there are only a handful of Jobs, Zuck, Elon, Bezos, Gates, Buffett in the world but 15 Million people on Wallstreetbets.
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