Based on what has been shown so far, they should have just called it Google A/I.
Google I/O 2023
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If you pick 10 random sessions from the program[0], I'd think the odds are that you'll end up with like 8-9 technical sessions or workshops. The keynotes of course target a more general audience, but that's always been the case. (E.g. haven't they been announcing consumer hardware during the keynotes basically from the start?). It seems in line with something like the WWDC, which is a developer conference but with a…
I haven't tuned in for the past few years, but I will today because I'm just curious to see how (if?) Google responds to the ChatGPT phenomenon.
Update from the future: we're almost an hour in and ML is pretty much the only thing they've talked about.
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#223I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…
I am slowly feeling like I should move on from HN. I used to find comments much more mature in the past and learned a lot. Lately I predict the general trend I'll see in the comments before even opening the page.
Somehow that has been my experience as well. I used to love HN for the rational and mature comments. Now, I find more of the comments to be idealistic and biased. More of the comments are from people who don't seem to have read the linked post.
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I haven't tuned in for the past few years, but I will today because I'm just curious to see how (if?) Google responds to the ChatGPT phenomenon.
I think their response has been pretty clear so far. They don't have a plan. https://bard.google.com/ https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/tech/geoffrey-hinton-leaves-g... https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/13/google_lamda_sentient... https://www.wired.com/story/google-timnit-gebru-ai-what-real...
As you wrote this, they announced PaLM 2.
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¬A (not profitable) => B (startup) does not imply A (profitable) => ¬B (not a startup).
So bed bath and beyond is a startup?
Just because
> ¬A (not profitable) => B (startup)
> does not imply
> A (profitable) => ¬B (not a startup)
does not imply that ¬A => B. In other words, the logical structure can be correct, but that does not mean the premises are themselves true. This is the difference between validity and soundness in formal logic [0].
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HN tends to bias towards pro Apple. You would see people doing mental gymnastics trying to defend their closed anti competitive practices, disregard for standards. I would cheer a Sennheiser/Bose more than any version of Airpods, I would rather not have a multi trillion dollar company gobble up other industries through unfair advantages. Seeing a hacker crowd do this is just beyond bizzare.
This is why I stopped calling HN, HN. It's YCombinator news. It's not news for hackers - maybe at one point, but not anymore and not for awhile. It may even be seen as looked down on because you're posting on a site run by venture capitalists.
YC news is still weird for praising Apple
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It seems quite the opposite: HN biases towards anti-Apple, often for bizarre reasons that require lots of mental gymnastics to justify. You don’t really have to buy AirPods, there are lots of products out in the market that compete in that space. Just because Apple provides a certain product doesn’t mean you are being forced to buy it.
The AirPods are capitalizing on lock-in. iPhones have always had Bluetooth, but almost nobody used BT headphones cause they suck. Then Apple released AirPods with first-party integrations to make it usable, and to make sure people would buy them, they also took out the jack. I care what my options are in the end, a lot more than ideology or something, and Apple worsened my options compared to before. The end result i…
> I care what my options are in the end, a lot more than ideology or something, and Apple worsened my options compared to before.
How did AirPods existing ruin your options? You can choose to not buy them, I don't, I like conductive head phones better anyways (non-Apple, before the AirPods came out, and they don't suck, so I don't get what you mean by apple producing the only BT headphones that don't suck?). Or do you mean you want to buy AirPods but you don't want to use an iPhone, or you want to use wired headphones only and don't care for dongles?
> The end result is I don't listen to music from my phone anymore.
Seriously, this is the mental gymnastics I'm talking about. None of this is really stopping you from listening to music on your phone.
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I'm not an Apple follower, what innovation have they produced in the last 5+ years that the sibling comments deride Google for? I would argue the TPU is far more interesting than the M1, other than that, is it not just marginal improvements on existing products?
Airpods are in a category of their own. Multibillion dollar business that redefined the headphone industry
Great as a business and it's made well, but not much interesting for tech.
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Most people lack the vision beyond 15 minutes. Of course Metaverse is a failure for them, just like how Internet was just a glorified fax machine for luddites. So, popular opinion is the worst indicator of anything. Happy to make a public bet that Metaverse will consume 25% of a person's day for at least 4 billion people by 2035 If transformer doesn't excite you (mostly due to anti-Google bias), Google has a dozen pr…
> Google has a dozen products that has over a 500 Million users. So did Microsoft in 2005. That doesn't mean the Ballmer era was innovative. If you need other examples of companies with hundreds of millions of users that aren't relevant, there's also Oracle.
Microsoft didn't have dozen products over 500 Million users in 2005.
They only had Windows, Office and IE.
Ballmer set the foundations for many of Microsoft's success today, including Azure
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#230So funny to see google stressing EVERYTIME that they have been using AI for years. Dude, you were seated in the pot of gold and let your organizational disfuncionality block you from really using that. And now you come trying to get the crown of AI? Catch up and them we can talk.
OpenAI must be sweating profusely after viewing that I/O presentation. Not only do they not have the integration, scale and user base of Google, but the migration of Bard to PaLM 2 it will exceed whatever OpenAI currently has. Also, it's only a matter of time before their top employee's are poached by Apple and Google.
Well I guess that internal memo was true, there is no moat in AI, for Google, OpenAI, or any other, as long as AI continues to improve.