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Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

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Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

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Hi Royce and Oliver, I have a suggestion: look into dimming the screen slowly for the last 30-60 seconds before you pull a person out of the app. This will greatly decrease the annoyance of being pulled out. It gives you time to anticipate being done with your session. I do this with my toddler. We let him use our phone to look at family videos while we are changing him. If I turn the phone off abruptly, it can be fr…

This is brilliant, will absolutely hack around with it this weekend. I think it's possible to temporarily modify brightness on iOS as a third party app, thanks very much for the suggestion

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

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post #52

I was wondering on IOS what api you are using to interject app call.

"Some of this only recently became technically possible. The new ScreenTime API from Apple allows users to connect apps on their phone to third party apps (like us). We receive opaque "tokens" for each user app selection and we can perform actions on the tokens, which affects the apps without us knowing what the actual apps are. We can add and remove "shields" to a token, which presents an obstructing interface over an app or website. We can display a user's usage of a token over a time period and display that data to them."

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

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Wow. I didn't know Apple let apps have that level of restriction on other installed apps. Perhaps I'm behind on my iOS APIs. I'd be eager to learn more on what kind of parental-control/screen-time magic goes into this. This is really cool, like incredibly cool. Screen Time reminders just did not work for me, it was a no-brainer to just hit "Get more time" and put in my passcode, but this adds a lot more friction. Sti…

The biggest problem I experienced with Screen Time is that when an app is outside of its limits, push notifications from it do not get delivered. So enabling the feature caused me to end up missing out on timely push notifications. Sometimes the notifications during the downtime got delivered later and sometimes they just never appeared at all.

This seems like a bug to me, or at best a very unintuitive side effect. I wish there were a way to still have push notifications delivered normally and only have Screen Time effect actual app usage.

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

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post #17

Serious question: are we sure we get a dopamine reward/thing when we do this? Has this been proven? Not saying this "addiction" does not exist. I like some "drugs" and smoke and my phone is by far the worst and hardest to manage/quit.

No, it's modern day bloodletting. Dopamine is involved in almost everything and that's why this weird metaphor of 'dopamine fasting' blaming it for random things became popular, however there is no scientific basis for it. ( https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/dopamine-fasting-misunde... ) It's not an addiction in any serious sense of the term and it's arguably misleading and disempowering people. Not every habit cha…

There's no single definition of addiction. Gabor Mate's sense of the term seems serious enough, and screentime/socialmedia habit certainly fits: a behavior that gives relief or pleasure but in the long run causes harm, and you can't give it up despite those negative consequences.

Re: Launch HN: Clearspace (YC W23) – Cut back on screen time

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Wow. I didn't know Apple let apps have that level of restriction on other installed apps. Perhaps I'm behind on my iOS APIs. I'd be eager to learn more on what kind of parental-control/screen-time magic goes into this. This is really cool, like incredibly cool. Screen Time reminders just did not work for me, it was a no-brainer to just hit "Get more time" and put in my passcode, but this adds a lot more friction. Sti…

> ... if I was truly addicted ... I would just ... uninstall the app. Not a problem you can solve, of course, but this is still a great leap forward.

Their feature of triggering a text to a trusted friend for accountability if you do this was really clever.

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