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Google I/O 2023

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Re: Google I/O 2023

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I built a business that did $80m of (profitable) revenue, in the first year. We were profitable after 3 months. Is that not a startup?

¬A (not profitable) => B (startup) does not imply A (profitable) => ¬B (not a startup).

So bed bath and beyond is a startup?

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#162

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This is due to Google's track record on killing products.

And Google’s disregard of Android devs outside the America/Europe. I have been doing Android development since 2011 and still impossible to get my hands on a Pixel or Chromebook directly from Google. On the other hand, I could get the latest iPhone shipped in a month.

Google just doesn't have the volumes to provide products in all countries. Providing sales integrations and support is costly and if you don't have volumes, your amortized cost over a device is high.

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No problem! My team is a small subset of engineers in a 10yo+ startup, and the organisation chose to go all in on many Google services long before any of us joined the company. I have my issues with Google and some of their services but the GP stands out as an odd comment to me because it's at odds with my own experience of keeping up with I/O talks.

Is it still a startup after a decade? Isn’t it just a company at that point.

I've heard some folks (angel investors!) refer to Telefonica as a startup, so...

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Is Google relevant? They feel like Microsoft in the Ballmer era, coasting on products released 15 years ago.

Yes. They operate platforms with billions of users.

Indeed they do have lots of users, hence mentioning 'Microsoft in the Ballmer era' in the comment you are replying to. Lots of existing users doesn't mean a company is relevant.

Re: Google I/O 2023

#165

Am I the only one excited for this conference? My Pixel 4A can't hold a charge any more and I've been holding out for the 7A.

yesss not many more small Android phones out there either Google comes up with something nice or I'm getting a used iPhone SE

I'm not sure if it'll ever come back. I loved my Pixel 3 at 5.5" but nothing else for the past 5 years has come close. I eventually relented and got a Pixel 6a at 6.1"

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I was very enthusiastic about Google I/O in the past (around the year 2010). Full of nice tech talks; I learned a lot. These years, I couldn't care less. It's all business talk. I guess developers are not the target audience anymore (and for newcomers, perhaps the "I/O" may be misleading).

If you pick 10 random sessions from the program[0], I'd think the odds are that you'll end up with like 8-9 technical sessions or workshops. The keynotes of course target a more general audience, but that's always been the case. (E.g. haven't they been announcing consumer hardware during the keynotes basically from the start?). It seems in line with something like the WWDC, which is a developer conference but with a…

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lmfao google can't host a fucking static page

Re: Google I/O 2023

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I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

Ceci n'est pas une pipe. The features are exciting. Google I/O, the conference with talks, is seen as less so. Notice how all the comments are about the talks. Yesterday's Apple announcement was _not_ a conference, and the comment thread was about the new app. It's not the same thing at all. Here are some snippets from top-level comments in this discussion thread. > It's all business talk > I for one benefited so muc…

To be fair, the comments on that article were peak 'Orange Site' - the discussion seemed to be mainly around subscriptions.

Re: Google I/O 2023

#170

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HN tends to bias towards pro Apple. You would see people doing mental gymnastics trying to defend their closed anti competitive practices, disregard for standards. I would cheer a Sennheiser/Bose more than any version of Airpods, I would rather not have a multi trillion dollar company gobble up other industries through unfair advantages. Seeing a hacker crowd do this is just beyond bizzare.

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Worked at Google, pro Elon, anti Zuck but mainly for his failures (Metaverse), not from the far left and still think it's clear Google's last major product (major meaning category defining, like Search or Maps or Android) was 15 years ago.
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