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Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by dekhn »

jebarker wrote: post #88
flippy_flops wrote: post #86

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I’ll be more interested in Google’s ML when they use it as a competent spam filter for Gmail. As it stands the false positives and false negatives are baffling. Maybe it’s unfair but to me that directly reflects their ML abilities

I'm not denying your experience, but I have almost zero problems with the Gmail spam filter. Never false negatives and almost never false positives. I wonder why different users have different experiences with this?

I get about one "you've been chosen! stanley tool" email every day. They all look the same. I click spam on every one. Still get 'em.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by eertami »

maxfurman wrote: post #28

Am I the only one excited for this conference? My Pixel 4A can't hold a charge any more and I've been holding out for the 7A.

I've had a 4a since launch but I was planning to wait out for the 9a. (The cheap OnePlus I had before survived 5 years so I'd hope for at least the same.)

Battery degradation hasn't been an issue for me at all, but maybe I'm using my phone less than average. Still goes from morning to bedtime without me thinking about or looking at the charge.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by dekhn »

pnw wrote: post #40

I remember Sergey skydiving onto the roof of Moscone in 2012, and everyone getting one of those cool Nexus Q media players which they never actually released so they all ended up as landfill. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_Q

I was on stage at that Google IO (I press the button that "launches" 700,000 servers during the launch of GCE). My practice session was bumped into 2:30AM because both Sergey with Glass and Vic with some Google Plus feature were "more important presentations and needed the stage practice time more".

Of the three products, Glass is gone, Vic and Google Plus are gone, and GCE is now making money for Google.

As for Nexus Q- I met a guy on the team. They not only never released it, they never INTENDED to release it! It was just a marketing thing for that Google IO.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by encryptluks2 »

r0m4n0 wrote: post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

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Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by dzader »

r0m4n0 wrote: post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

I've been deep in the Google ecosystem for 10+ years and my sentiment has changed simply because their products suck now. Every offering they have is worse today than it was a year ago. Google assistant is borderline unusable in it's current state, and I used to sing it's praises from the mountain tops.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by hot_gril »

gman83 wrote: post #92
r0m4n0 wrote: post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

I've noticed that the sentiment on HN tends to skew heavily against Google and more towards Apple. When I go to in-person tech meetups it's usually not at all like that. Not sure why.

It's because I'm here.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by rurp »

latchkey wrote: post #105
bdcravens wrote: post #94

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This is due to Google's track record on killing products.

Plenty of products are still alive and kicking. AppEngine is a great example of that. Initial release date: April 7, 2008.

If you need to list out apps that haven't been killed, I think that kind of proves the point :)

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by vineyardmike »

DrScientist wrote: post #118
capableweb wrote: post #11

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All of that makes sense for Google in general, but Google I/O used to be explicitly a developer conference, with everything targeting developers, which no longer seems true.

Same sort of thing happened to WWDC. I once worked somewhere where the only people who actually went to WWDC where the IT admins and Apple fans,rather than developers. From a developer perspective - online if so good now, why do you need to travel? ( unless you really want 1:1 with Apple/Google Devs ). So the only people who travel end up being the people their for the 'event' and the 'one more thing' excitement.

I think conferences have long been about the socializing and the excuse to travel. “Learning” was the pretend business excuse.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by tenpies »

revelio wrote: post #101
gman83 wrote: post #92

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I've noticed that the sentiment on HN tends to skew heavily against Google and more towards Apple. When I go to in-person tech meetups it's usually not at all like that. Not sure why.

It's an expectations mismatch. Google used to be the most loved company by developers. It was confident, strong, did wonders for dev comp and gave away lots of cool stuff for free. The only way from there was down, really. Then they did a bunch of things that upset people like getting buy-in into platforms and products only to then constantly kill them off, refuse to release their AI models as APIs on the grounds tha…

Even outside technology, Google went from that cool "don't be evil" company, to suppressing search results so that people would vote the way Google wanted.

Add a few cases of Glassholes[1], killing products people loved, and it eventually piles up.

I will add though, that just because the company has lost its lustre, doesn't mean the people working there are any less talented. I just think that on a long enough timeline, Google becomes IBM[2].

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[1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glasshole

[2] https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers...

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