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Google I/O 2023

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Re: Google I/O 2023

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I built a business that did $80m of (profitable) revenue, in the first year. We were profitable after 3 months. Is that not a startup?

¬A (not profitable) => B (startup) does not imply A (profitable) => ¬B (not a startup).

Math checks out. :D

Re: Google I/O 2023

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I was very enthusiastic about Google I/O in the past (around the year 2010). Full of nice tech talks; I learned a lot. These years, I couldn't care less. It's all business talk. I guess developers are not the target audience anymore (and for newcomers, perhaps the "I/O" may be misleading).

Heh, yours and other comments here disparaging I/O as "business" or "corporate" talk these days come across as quite ignorant - and I don't mean this in a nasty way, more in a literal way. It seems perhaps you're missing the fact there are many different styles of talks for many audiences. At every I/O there is a "keynote" and a "developer keynote", and similarly there are business / product talks and developer-focus…

Which world is this? I am genuinely interested and trying to be rude

Re: Google I/O 2023

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I was very enthusiastic about Google I/O in the past (around the year 2010). Full of nice tech talks; I learned a lot. These years, I couldn't care less. It's all business talk. I guess developers are not the target audience anymore (and for newcomers, perhaps the "I/O" may be misleading).

it's actually really depressing for me to watch. it feels like google is a shell of their former selves.

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> live in a world where they have no choice but to use Google SDKs and services Which world is this? I’m genuinely interested not trying to be rude.

No problem! My team is a small subset of engineers in a 10yo+ startup, and the organisation chose to go all in on many Google services long before any of us joined the company. I have my issues with Google and some of their services but the GP stands out as an odd comment to me because it's at odds with my own experience of keeping up with I/O talks.

Yeah but who are you?

Re: Google I/O 2023

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I was very enthusiastic about Google I/O in the past (around the year 2010). Full of nice tech talks; I learned a lot. These years, I couldn't care less. It's all business talk. I guess developers are not the target audience anymore (and for newcomers, perhaps the "I/O" may be misleading).

If you pick 10 random sessions from the program[0], I'd think the odds are that you'll end up with like 8-9 technical sessions or workshops. The keynotes of course target a more general audience, but that's always been the case. (E.g. haven't they been announcing consumer hardware during the keynotes basically from the start?). It seems in line with something like the WWDC, which is a developer conference but with a…

I haven't tuned in for the past few years, but I will today because I'm just curious to see how (if?) Google responds to the ChatGPT phenomenon.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, yours and other comments here disparaging I/O as "business" or "corporate" talk these days come across as quite ignorant - and I don't mean this in a nasty way, more in a literal way. It seems perhaps you're missing the fact there are many different styles of talks for many audiences. At every I/O there is a "keynote" and a "developer keynote", and similarly there are business / product talks and developer-focus…

Which world is this? I am genuinely interested and trying to be rude

Fitting username. Have an upvote.

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I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

I've noticed that the sentiment on HN tends to skew heavily against Google and more towards Apple. When I go to in-person tech meetups it's usually not at all like that. Not sure why.

I think the sentiment is more complex than that. In general, I think the sentiment is against large corporate interests, and in favor of small, focused technical improvements. And improvement here is not the same as change. Often, sentiment is pretty negative towards changes made by large corporations which could be interpreted as strategic decisions made to control an ecosystem.

In this specific case, things are high level and generic, so at this point the framing is closer to big corporation than it is to anything specific or technical.

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