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Apple just lost its lawsuit trying to ban iOS virtual machines

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Post by throwaway2990 »

Fuzzeh wrote: post #203
throwaway2990 wrote: post #67

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Nvidia? Which apple product had Nvidia in it?

My Mid 2014, 15" Macbook Pro has both Intel and Nvidia. Chipset Model: Intel Iris Pro Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M This Macbook pro was a free upgrade from Apple after I'd had 3 mainboard replacements because they'd had faulty GPU's on my 2011 MBP ( see https://web.archive.org/web/20170119031155/https://people.ca... for background) - Basically after I found out what was going on I took my 'repaired' machine…

So more than “a couple of years ago”

Cos been almost 10 years since apple ditched Nvidia.

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Post by hamilyon2 »

Gareth321 wrote: post #227
rollcat wrote: post #202

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It's a very fast moving target. Apple keeps rewriting and deprecating stuff faster than they can write the documentation. As a newcomer to native macOS development, I'm sometimes struggling to even find working examples.

I am convinced this is by design. Apple has leaned heavily into service based revenue. This means recurring revenue. So in their App Store, they heavily incentivise subscriptions over one-time purchases. One of their tools is frequent and rapid API deprecation. This breaks older apps which aren't maintained. Developers must therefore spend much more effort on maintaining software on iOS and macOS (I can still run sof…

I really like how impartial and matter-of-factly your comment is in contrast with dystopian picture it paints. Or maybe there are positive aspects of this process that I don't see?

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Post by anticensor »

TobyTheDog123 wrote: post #18

It's funny how the 30% tax and App Store nonsense automatically makes me want Apple to lose every single court case in perpetuity. Having such a monopoly on a device you purchase really means the legal system needs to take you down a notch.

That 30% is iVAT :)

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Post by _piif »

pb7 wrote: post #102
thfuran wrote: post #97

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Alrighty then, kindly send me money amounting to 25% of your annual expenses. I'm told such fees are harmless.

What have you done for me? I already send much more than 25% of my annual expenses for the privilege of using the US's platform. I don't even use most of the features but I can't seem to opt out of paying this commission. What gives?

Opting out would mean you would be barred from making use of any public roads. Or having 24/7 access to emergency services. I don't see how either being subject to that or the enforcement of it would be feasible in any measure.

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Post by andrewaylett »

scrollaway wrote: post #198
lostlogin wrote: post #162

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You don’t have full control of your data. Google isn’t some Mecca of freedom, it’s an advertising company.

Google is a company providing me a service I pay for, with a contract I signed. Do you think my data would be safer if I used UnknownCalMailCompany Inc, a company with zero track record in terms of privacy, safety, or long-term viability?

Even those whose risk assessment leads to them not wanting to give Google their personal data should be able to acknowledge that Google's pretty good at not leaking user data onto the Internet.

To the extent that they make their money from user data, their advantage is in keeping the underlying data for themselves, not in giving it to other people.

(I use a fair amount of Google tech, including paying for hardware and services, but I won't use their search engine or browser)

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Post by matja »

ayewo wrote: post #216
tiernano wrote: post #174

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Azure does run on Windows. It's HyperV server below the rest of the hardware. It's a custom Windows install that you can't purchase, but it's Windows none the less.

That's interesting. Do you have a public source for this handy? I remember seeing an article [1] proclaiming that more than 50% of Azure's workloads are on Linux, so I'm guessing their hypervisors are running an optimised Linux kernel somewhat. 1: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23156222

Interesting language, "more than 50%". I guess the real number doesn't look good for marketing.

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Post by bzzzt »

redeeman wrote: post #241
bzzzt wrote: post #229

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You can get a free Apple developer account and run any software you build on your own devices.

imagine if you needed a free ford account to be able to run any backseat you want in your new car

Imagine a world without bad car analogies...

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Post by ziftface »

bzzzt wrote: post #229
rstat1 wrote: post #175

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The fact that (baring exploitable bugs) you can only run Apple approved software on an iOS device pretty much makes it "THEIR machine" anyway.

You can get a free Apple developer account and run any software you build on your own devices.

The way that works is you pay apple an annual fee so that they will sign your applications using their key. Their devices still check that the application is signed by apple. I think you could reasonably say you have no control over that device you paid for if this is what you have to do to run your software on it.

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Post by jraph »

eptcyka wrote: post #237
pasc1878 wrote: post #226

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That is the number of macOS VMs. Linux windows etc is not limited

If I cared about Linux VMs, I wouldn't be running macOS as my host.

Maybe you don't, but it's common for macOS users to run Linux VMs to get shit done.

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Post by scrollaway »

krger wrote: post #248
scrollaway wrote: post #198

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Google is a company providing me a service I pay for, with a contract I signed. Do you think my data would be safer if I used UnknownCalMailCompany Inc, a company with zero track record in terms of privacy, safety, or long-term viability?

I guess since your only two options are, for some reason, "Google" and "UnknownCalMailCompany Inc," Google seems to be the choice for you. Fortunately, many of the rest of us live in the real world where there are more than just those two options.

What’s your alternative? You’re not suggesting any.

And yes concretely, the two options if you want cloud are either the usual suspects (ms google apple), or unproven companies.

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