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Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by shjake »

hparadiz wrote: post #71
ubermonkey wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The only downside is that there is no good iOS app." That's a dealbreaker for iOS folks, though. I hate the mission creep Dropbox has embraced, and would definitely consider something else, but I need access to my stuff on Windows, MacOS, and iOS. Anything that doesn't hit all three notes isn't a contender.

To me it's a dealbreaker for iOS. iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. I take a photo with with my phone and it's synced to my Linux desktop in 1-2 seconds.

What particularly is lacking in iOS itself that would prevent anyone from developing a functioning cloud/remote sync app?

Working with the filesystem was very tricky in the past but this is no longer the case with https://developer.apple.com/documentation/fileprovider for the past 4-5 years.

Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by antman »

est31 wrote: post #62
celsoazevedo wrote: post #28

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There's Möbius Sync, but iOS restrictions means that it can't work in the background or access folders like it does on Android/Windows/macOS/Linux.

iOS literally doesn't have "just there for storage" directories that are not icloud. Either you use the photos pool, or you use icloud, or you use per-app directories that are local to each app. But then those directories cannot be accessed by other apps. Even if access to individual files is implemented, it's often very buggy. Say you have a pictures directory shared via Möbius Sync. Then you want to edit one of the…

iOS effectively blocks all background apps from accessing the internet except a few kb per sec. You are forced to pay apple for the convenience of a cloud backup. Walled garden dark pattern

Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by deluxeroyale »

ceeam wrote: post #29

Using resilio (which is NOT open source, of course and is actually kinda abandoned) until they implement selective sync (also "cloud" files browser). This is THE feature that is the deal breaker for me to switch. No, I don't sync hundreds of gigabytes from my personal cloud to my fokken phone, or even laptop, or even work PC. Still want access to all of them on demand.

Same here, being hold hostage by resilio just waiting for it to either die or kill my files. I really need that selective sync.

Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by devsda »

hparadiz wrote: post #71
ubermonkey wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The only downside is that there is no good iOS app." That's a dealbreaker for iOS folks, though. I hate the mission creep Dropbox has embraced, and would definitely consider something else, but I need access to my stuff on Windows, MacOS, and iOS. Anything that doesn't hit all three notes isn't a contender.

To me it's a dealbreaker for iOS. iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. I take a photo with with my phone and it's synced to my Linux desktop in 1-2 seconds.

Toys or not, they are incredibly powerful devices that are very much locked down for some arbitrary reasons.

Any sort of basic interaction outside of their own ecosystem even through established standards and protocols is made difficult or impossible.

Case in point, I wanted to transfer a pic from an Android phone to an IPhone and was surprised to find that ios doesn't allow bluetooth file transfer!

It is completely ridiculous to think that you need to involve a third-party app/service or device to transfer small amounts of data between two very expensive communication devices sitting next to each other.

Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by unstuck3958 »

ubermonkey wrote: post #94
crossroadsguy wrote: post #85

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> dealbreaker for iOS folks, though Is there anything that is a dealbreaker for "iOS folks"? If usability would have been a dealbreaker they might not have been on iOS in the first place. Let's just look at Syncthing not being on iOS - Apple makes sure things like Syncthing can't be on iOS. Mobius Sync does a trillion workarounds to give a semblance of being on iOS. So maybe "iOS folks" should reach out to Apple talk…

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Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by carstenhag »

ubermonkey wrote: post #94
crossroadsguy wrote: post #85

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> dealbreaker for iOS folks, though Is there anything that is a dealbreaker for "iOS folks"? If usability would have been a dealbreaker they might not have been on iOS in the first place. Let's just look at Syncthing not being on iOS - Apple makes sure things like Syncthing can't be on iOS. Mobius Sync does a trillion workarounds to give a semblance of being on iOS. So maybe "iOS folks" should reach out to Apple talk…

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Please, don't be condescending. People have different opinions. No need to be rude.

Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b »

Arn_Thor wrote: post #90

Does anyone have experience with Syncthing in high-latency connection scenarios, for example across continents? I need to bring and keep up to date tens of TBs between a couple of servers very far apart (~200ms ping). Almost everything I've tried transfers at a fraction of the speeds possible. The exception is Rclone where I'm able to properly saturate the connection.

200ms is not "very far apart". I routinely use it on 350-450ms connections with no issues — it easily saturates my 500 Mbps link.

Although in your case I would probably use ZFS snapshots through syncoid, they'd be much more efficient than anything else.

Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by lloeki »

celsoazevedo wrote: post #28
ajd1988 wrote: post #21

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I couldn't agree more! Syncthing is like the reliable, quiet roommate who always does their dishes, whereas dealing with different file systems feels like trying to figure out who left their half-eaten pizza on the couch. Just needs the iOS app!

There's Möbius Sync, but iOS restrictions means that it can't work in the background or access folders like it does on Android/Windows/macOS/Linux.

> it can't work in the background

I could care less about that, I just want it to appear in Files.app

... but it's not available in the iOS FR app store (is it available anywhere but in the US app store?), so, deal breaker.

Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by otbutz »

Arn_Thor wrote: post #90

Does anyone have experience with Syncthing in high-latency connection scenarios, for example across continents? I need to bring and keep up to date tens of TBs between a couple of servers very far apart (~200ms ping). Almost everything I've tried transfers at a fraction of the speeds possible. The exception is Rclone where I'm able to properly saturate the connection.

You could try to force QUIC which should handle latency a bit better. The priority of TCP/QUIC will be configurable with the upcoming v1.23.5 release:

https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing/pull/8868

Re: Syncthing: A continuous file synchronization program

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Post by bibanez »

lloeki wrote: post #108
celsoazevedo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's Möbius Sync, but iOS restrictions means that it can't work in the background or access folders like it does on Android/Windows/macOS/Linux.

> it can't work in the background I could care less about that, I just want it to appear in Files.app ... but it's not available in the iOS FR app store (is it available anywhere but in the US app store?), so, deal breaker.

I use Möbius and I'm in Spain
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