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Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool

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It's tempting to dismiss this as just e-lebrity gossip, but I think that this kind of rottenness is probably more dangerous to the Valley than threats from Washington or talk of bubbles. If who you know and how well you can politic overshadows what you did and the results you got, then you're in trouble. If somebody is an unscrupulous douchebag, don't to business with them, don't read their blogs, don't upvote their…

Nothing is more dangerous to the Valley than threats of force from Washington.

Re: Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pleasantries aren't part of this kind of "good taste".

Exactly. Whoever said that good taste has anything to do with appearing pleasant?

It's hard to imagine someone enjoying his level of celebrity without even trying to appear pleasant. Even Steve Jobs reserved the bulk of his ire for those that worked for him, and appeared caring to his audience (customers), even "patronly".

Re: Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool

#43

It's tempting to dismiss this as just e-lebrity gossip, but I think that this kind of rottenness is probably more dangerous to the Valley than threats from Washington or talk of bubbles. If who you know and how well you can politic overshadows what you did and the results you got, then you're in trouble. If somebody is an unscrupulous douchebag, don't to business with them, don't read their blogs, don't upvote their…

Nothing is more dangerous to the Valley than threats of force from Washington.

"As a rule, the only thing that can kill a good startup is the startup itself" - http://www.paulgraham.com/superangels.html

As a rule, the only thing that can kill a good _ecosystem_ is the _ecosystem_ itself

Edit: We live in a democracy. If there is something that stands to significantly harm us, then we should (and can) do something about it. A recent example would be SOPA.

The biggest threat we face is not from Washington, it's ourselves. If we become so torn-apart that forces from Washington can destroy us, it's our fault.

It's rather easy to focus on problems being caused from an external force, but there are often larger and more dangerous threats internally. That brings up back to the startup quote, it's easy for a startup to focus on competitors (external threat) instead of working on their own product (which is really the biggest thing that will make or break them).

Re: Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fanboys on either side of the aisle love to pat themselves on the back and reaffirm--almost daily--that yes, they did buy the best product imaginable. It's the same reason Gruber makes half a million a year writing snarky one liners. Some sort of subconscious need to find superiority in consumer purchases and brand loyalty. It's kind of disturbing.

If you haven't already - watch the documentaries "Century of the self" and "Human Resources" for more disturbing information on how this came to be.

For a lighter and modern take, the recent BBC show Secrets of the Superbrands does a good job showing why we like what we like. I can also second taking some time to watch "The Century of the Self" but its a bit darker.

Re: Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool

#46

So basically it's only a matter of time before the ideals of the "gold rush" go away and everyone's just in it for the money? I came to Silicon Valley to escape that (the alternative, at the time, was Wall Street). Unfortunately, this kind of behavior (and these kind of people) seem to 'follow the money'. *Note: This is both about the conversation that companies are abusing consumers and then apologizing later, and t…

What would people do if, as you say, everyone gets into it just for the money? Would enough people consider leaving somewhere else?

Re: Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool

#47
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing is more dangerous to the Valley than threats of force from Washington.

"As a rule, the only thing that can kill a good startup is the startup itself" - http://www.paulgraham.com/superangels.html As a rule, the only thing that can kill a good _ecosystem_ is the _ecosystem_ itself Edit: We live in a democracy. If there is something that stands to significantly harm us, then we should (and can) do something about it. A recent example would be SOPA. The biggest threat we face is not from Wa…

Is there any rational reason to derive this from pg's statement? Word substitution does not work in all cases. For example:

> As a rule, the only thing that can kill a good _human_ is the _human_ itself.

Re: Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool

#48

It's tempting to dismiss this as just e-lebrity gossip, but I think that this kind of rottenness is probably more dangerous to the Valley than threats from Washington or talk of bubbles. If who you know and how well you can politic overshadows what you did and the results you got, then you're in trouble. If somebody is an unscrupulous douchebag, don't to business with them, don't read their blogs, don't upvote their…

If who you know and how well you can politic overshadows what you did and the results you got, then you're in trouble.

For me its just another sign that 'tech' is growing up. Pretty much any industry creates an economic flow, and the flow is a source of power (some would argue the only real source in peace time), and one can harness that power by having influence over the flow.

Back when the Homebrew Computer Club was meeting and Steve and Steve were there and nerds gathered at the ByteShop to see the latest S-100 board that Geoge Morrow had dreamed up, the total flow was measured in less than a million dollars a year. Few 'professional' power brokers even noticed. Today the total economic impact of 'tech' is approaching a trillion dollars by some estimates, with that kind of flow comes real power. You also get a different class of players in the game.

We joke about people who would sell out their families for a million dollars, however that number gets uncomfortably large as you go up in decimal orders of magnitude. 10 million, 100 million, a billion ?

The stakes are higher today, some people are the barrier to entry you have to get past. It hasn't been a "gentleman's game" for some time now. Kinda sad really.

Re: Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool

#49

I stopped reading techcrunch about 9 months ago, after realizing that the majority of articles were friends of the author - and realizing it was almost impossible to get featured on there unless you were connected in some kind of monetary way.

And finally, in 2012, after mocking and lambasting traditional reportage and journalistic standards for years, the Internet finally learns that journalistic standards, expectations, and ethics are a set of rules learned the hard way, that are as relevant on the web as they were in print. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for "it's just a blog, man".

Personally, I think the mixing opinions and facts that blogs does is not a bad idea, but this don't mean conflict of interest isn't still important.

Re: Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool

#50

Not big investments — maybe $100,000. They don’t need your money; they can raise money from anyone. I dont agree with this. Many startup companies have to prove their mettle to get an investor want to invest in them. Also, there are significant chance of any startup going bust. He does not supplement what the odds are in making 10x/100x returns. So its difficult to buy the concept that just investing in them will mak…

The real question is whether CrunchFund is leading or following. If they just follow, once other big names are committed, then frankly the value-added for startups is close to 0.
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