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That's 50 Calories in a serving. What are you having for the other (let's say) 1950 Calories?
You can have more than one serving of broccoli.
Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt
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Things are not that black and white. There are many places in both urban and rural America where access to healthy food is much further away and more expensive. If you're relying on food stamps unhealthy foods will often make your dollar go further. This is especially important when you're trying to feed a whole family. The corner mcdonalds or bodega is easier to access food when you don't have a car and work double…
I didn't get pre-diabetic until I was wealthy--eating out, non-stop sushi and Thai. Unfortunately for me, rice has a very high glycemic index. It is not suited to the genetics of my people.
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I honestly don't understand responses like this. We're presented with systemic issues, and your "solution" is just "personal responsibility"? Something which has demonstrably failed and lead us to the situation we're in today? Do you often think that doing more of the same thing will lead to different results? Since we're in a technology forum. Let's say you're a product owner and your app is suffering from severe pe…
Say your app takes 5 minutes to load the first page and 1 minute to switch between pages after that. Instead of blaming the developers, blame the users for expecting too much of the app. Personal responsibility and all that.
It's the users fault they are using the app during peak times. If they really needed access to X part of the app they should have done it before it got busy.
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Changing labels doesn’t change the underlying reality. Spend some time talking to some old stock Yankees. Their attitude towards food is different. A phrase you’ll often hear is “eat to live.” It’s not a wonder that Alabama has an obesity rate that’s over 60% higher than Massachusetts.
This is a very extreme claim that requires a lot of evidence. If we're just throwing out ideas, I'll make a claim that "attitude" is a lot less of a factor than having only dollar stores and no grocery stores within an hour's drive. Also, I've lived in Massachusetts my entire life and I've never heard anyone say "eat to live".
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> I'd like to believe that people have the agency of choosing what they eat. They do, but they need to know how to eat a healthy diet. I don't know about you, but I've never once seen a commercial about eating whole foods with vegetables. I am however bombarded on a daily basis with adds for fried chicken and burgers. Some people just don't have the access and education.
I don't think it's an advertising thing though it could play into it. - Eating a varied healthy diet is a lot more expensive than eating a varied unhealthy diet (if you can eat kale, rice, and beans all day then good for you but most can't) - We're creatures of habit, if we grow up eating unhealthy we are more likely to continue to as adults. Eating healthy for most people requires cooking for yourself, many never le…
Eating healthy is not more expensive. Potatoes, rice, beans, carrots, etc. are all inexpensive. I was in the store today, and a can of Nalley chili with meat and beans is $2.19. It's more than enough for a meal.
I also buy whatever's on sale, including the day older steak which is around half off. A half gallon of milk is $1.99.
Re: Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt
#86This is as much a cultural problem as a financial one. Somehow we've convinced ourselves that in spite of the fact that we can afford to provide everyone with good food and access to medical care, that we'd rather give you bad food which causes health care issues and then treat those because it contributes to GDP.
Industry caters to consumer demand. If consumers wanted white meat, fruit and vegetables, they would have been provided as cheaply and abundantly as red meat and corn syrup.
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I honestly don't understand responses like this. We're presented with systemic issues, and your "solution" is just "personal responsibility"? Something which has demonstrably failed and lead us to the situation we're in today? Do you often think that doing more of the same thing will lead to different results? Since we're in a technology forum. Let's say you're a product owner and your app is suffering from severe pe…
Re: Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt
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Changing labels doesn’t change the underlying reality. Spend some time talking to some old stock Yankees. Their attitude towards food is different. A phrase you’ll often hear is “eat to live.” It’s not a wonder that Alabama has an obesity rate that’s over 60% higher than Massachusetts.
I live in MA, and "old stock Yankees" is not most of the population. Isn't this just that MA is richer than AL, and richer people are less likely to be obese?
Maryland has comparable median income to Massachusetts, but much higher obesity rates. Vermont and Kansas have similar incomes, but Vermont has much lower obesity rates. (Same is true for Virginia versus Colorado, Montana versus South Carolina, etc.)
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Frontline did an episode a while back were dentists were performing unnecessary major dental work on poor people when the government had a program to pay the dentists for such work. Frontline was outraged at the dentists, but did not seem to recognize that this is the inevitable result of incentives the government set up.
Whoa whoa whoa, I'm the first one to call out perverse incentives in government programs, but even I would assume that dentists had meaningful ethics codes and enforcement that would largely mitigate this kind of abuse. OTOH, if the "unnecessary" there just means "not satisfying the platonically correct cost/benefit analysis", and there's still some net benefit to the patient, and the government program didn't ask th…
A society cannot be run on expecting people to resist the powerful incentives set up for them.
You can see this effect in every aspect of government operations.
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Whoa whoa whoa, I'm the first one to call out perverse incentives in government programs, but even I would assume that dentists had meaningful ethics codes and enforcement that would largely mitigate this kind of abuse. OTOH, if the "unnecessary" there just means "not satisfying the platonically correct cost/benefit analysis", and there's still some net benefit to the patient, and the government program didn't ask th…
Dentists do have an ethical code, government payers do look for patterns of abuse, and state licensing boards do investigate complaints of unnecessary procedures (to some extent). But many of these cases really fall into gray areas. Dentistry is still more an art than a science, and different dentists treating the same patient in good faith will often come up with completely different treatment plans. It's tough to r…